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Re: [CBQ] Last Q Steam To Operate

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Last Q Steam To Operate
From: "Bob Yarger" <ryarger@rypn.org>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:25:16 -0500
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The 4978 was one of five (I think) 01a 2-8-2s leased temporarily to the C&S
in the fall of 1958, due to two bad head-ons, which took several diesels out
of service.  They worked into the 1959 beet campaign between Fort Collins
and Denver.  Here is a photo of 4978 taken at the 7th Street roundhouse in
Denver on March 7, 1959, before it was shipped back to Illinois:
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00003842+OP-3842

I know the 4994 (now at Lubbock, TX) was one of these, also the 4947 and (I
think) the 4952.  Not sure of the fifth one.  The 4994 stayed at 7th Street
as a possible parts supply for the touring 4960, and is said to have donated
some grates doing so.  It went to Texas in 1964.

In March 1959, while riding with others through Ft. Morgan, Colorado, I saw
a steam locomotive parked on a siding there, from about one block distant.
I could not convince them to visit it, but suspect it was one of the 01a
engines being returned to Illinois.

Photo of 4947 under steam at Denver, sometime in the fall of 1958:
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?
00003839+OP-3839

This one says "ca. 1960), but I suspect it is a year earlier.
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00003840+OP-3840

I suspect, as someone said here, that the last actual Q operation was the
4997 in January 1959.  I'd like to see photos of any Q steam operation in
1958-59.  If anyone has some, please post them.  also, please post the
aforementioned photos of 4978 in storage before donation..

Bob Yarger, Editor
Railway Preservation News (free website)
www.rypn.org
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From: <LZadnichek@aol.com>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:19 PM
Subject: [CBQ] Last Q Steam To Operate


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> December 20, 2004
>
> Mr. McCauley - In answer to your latest post, if there was one lucky O1-a,
it
> was the 4978. I'm sending you offline a photograph I took of the derelict
> 2-8-2 on March 17, 1963 on a turntable stub track at the Galesburg
roundhouse.
>
> At the time I took her photograph, the 4978 and 4960 were the only two
O1-a
> engines left on the official CB&Q roster. The stripped and tenderless 4943
was
> still on the property, but was awaiting shipment to NWS&W to be scrapped.
>
> The 4978 survived as she had been retained for stationary boiler service.
> Fortunately, she survived long enough to be donated. I have copies of
March 1963
> and September 1960 "Condition and Location of Locomotives" for the
Galesburg
> Division.
>
> The March 1963 report states that the 4978 had last received heavy repairs
in
> March 1955 and had run 34,035 miles since that date. The O1-a additionally
> had 67 months flue credit and 40 months firebox credit for being out of
service.
>
> If you back out 67 months from March 1963, then the last time the 4978 was
> fired up would've been August 1957. Thus, unless the O1-a underwent class
> repairs at Galesburg sometime after March 1963, it's impossible she
steamed to
> Ottawa for display.
>
> Rather, unless someone can prove me wrong, the CB&Q's Galesburg roundhouse
> gang cosmetically restored the 4978 to first class appearance to be towed
as a
> dead engine. Today, she looks wonderful in her new home at the Mendota
station.
>
> Thus, the 4978 was NOT one of the last Q steam engines to operate. That
> distinction would fall to one of her O1-a sisters at Herrin Junction in
January
> 1959. Do any records remain of exactly which O1-a was the LAST to be fired
up for
> a mine run?
>
> Louis Zadnichek II
> Fairhope, AL
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