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Re: [CBQ] Last Q Steam To Operate

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Last Q Steam To Operate
From: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:31:22 -0800 (PST)
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BB#35 has many photos of Q steam in 1958.
John D. Mitchell,Jr.
--- Bob Yarger <ryarger@rypn.org> wrote:

> The 4978 was one of five (I think) 01a 2-8-2s leased
> temporarily to the C&S
> in the fall of 1958, due to two bad head-ons, which
> took several diesels out
> of service.  They worked into the 1959 beet campaign
> between Fort Collins
> and Denver.  Here is a photo of 4978 taken at the
> 7th Street roundhouse in
> Denver on March 7, 1959, before it was shipped back
> to Illinois:
>
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00003842+OP-3842
> 
> I know the 4994 (now at Lubbock, TX) was one of
> these, also the 4947 and (I
> think) the 4952.  Not sure of the fifth one.  The
> 4994 stayed at 7th Street
> as a possible parts supply for the touring 4960, and
> is said to have donated
> some grates doing so.  It went to Texas in 1964.
> 
> In March 1959, while riding with others through Ft.
> Morgan, Colorado, I saw
> a steam locomotive parked on a siding there, from
> about one block distant.
> I could not convince them to visit it, but suspect
> it was one of the 01a
> engines being returned to Illinois.
> 
> Photo of 4947 under steam at Denver, sometime in the
> fall of 1958:
> http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?
> 00003839+OP-3839
> 
> This one says "ca. 1960), but I suspect it is a year
> earlier.
>
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00003840+OP-3840
> 
> I suspect, as someone said here, that the last
> actual Q operation was the
> 4997 in January 1959.  I'd like to see photos of any
> Q steam operation in
> 1958-59.  If anyone has some, please post them. 
> also, please post the
> aforementioned photos of 4978 in storage before
> donation..
> 
> Bob Yarger, Editor
> Railway Preservation News (free website)
> www.rypn.org
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <LZadnichek@aol.com>
> To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:19 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] Last Q Steam To Operate
> 
> 
> >
> > December 20, 2004
> >
> > Mr. McCauley - In answer to your latest post, if
> there was one lucky O1-a,
> it
> > was the 4978. I'm sending you offline a photograph
> I took of the derelict
> > 2-8-2 on March 17, 1963 on a turntable stub track
> at the Galesburg
> roundhouse.
> >
> > At the time I took her photograph, the 4978 and
> 4960 were the only two
> O1-a
> > engines left on the official CB&Q roster. The
> stripped and tenderless 4943
> was
> > still on the property, but was awaiting shipment
> to NWS&W to be scrapped.
> >
> > The 4978 survived as she had been retained for
> stationary boiler service.
> > Fortunately, she survived long enough to be
> donated. I have copies of
> March 1963
> > and September 1960 "Condition and Location of
> Locomotives" for the
> Galesburg
> > Division.
> >
> > The March 1963 report states that the 4978 had
> last received heavy repairs
> in
> > March 1955 and had run 34,035 miles since that
> date. The O1-a additionally
> > had 67 months flue credit and 40 months firebox
> credit for being out of
> service.
> >
> > If you back out 67 months from March 1963, then
> the last time the 4978 was
> > fired up would've been August 1957. Thus, unless
> the O1-a underwent class
> > repairs at Galesburg sometime after March 1963,
> it's impossible she
> steamed to
> > Ottawa for display.
> >
> > Rather, unless someone can prove me wrong, the
> CB&Q's Galesburg roundhouse
> > gang cosmetically restored the 4978 to first class
> appearance to be towed
> as a
> > dead engine. Today, she looks wonderful in her new
> home at the Mendota
> station.
> >
> > Thus, the 4978 was NOT one of the last Q steam
> engines to operate. That
> > distinction would fall to one of her O1-a sisters
> at Herrin Junction in
> January
> > 1959. Do any records remain of exactly which O1-a
> was the LAST to be fired
> up for
> > a mine run?
> >
> > Louis Zadnichek II
> > Fairhope, AL
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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