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Re: [CBQ] Fuel Dye

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fuel Dye
From: Don L Zinnecker <dzinnecker@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 09:55:02 -0600
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On my way home from work each night, around 11:00 p.m., I drive past the
former CB&Q passenger depot at Omaha.  A fuel truck is often waiting at
the adjacent Amtrak depot to fuel Amtrak train #5 when it pulls in.     
-Don   

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:30:37 -0800 (PST) cy svobodny
<ctsvobodny@yahoo.com> writes:
> In this day and age many RR locos are fueled by a
> local vendor from a pumper truck along side the main
> line.  AMTRAK does this in Minot,ND, I know because
> I've initialed the fuel slips before delivery and and
> sign tham afterward showing total gallons pumped for
> each loco.  The vendor in Minot used to be Cenex. and
> probably still is. At Dilworth, MN(Fargo) AMTRAK is
> fueled at the BN(ex. NP) fueling rack, right on the
> main line. Also same thing at Havre, MT.   CY     
> --- Myron & Lois Dudenbostel <myroloi@egyptian.net>
> wrote:
> > Randy.
> >  You are correct railroad are exempt from state
> > motor fuel tax for fuel used
> > in off road equipment (anything that does not run on
> > the hiway). But from
> > there on your reasoning is all wrong. The idea
> > behind "dyed" fuel for off
> > road use and  "clear" (on dye) for hiway use so it
> > can be kept separate for
> > tax accounting reasons for the government. It makes
> > no difference if you buy
> > "clear" diesel for a truck to run on or to start a
> > brush pile on fire or put
> > it in a diesel locomotive you will be charged state
> > motor fuel tax because
> > it is "clear" fuel. Now if you buy "dyed" diesel
> > fuel you can use it for any
> > reason but just do not use it in a vehicle used for
> > hiway use, the fines are
> > very expensive when you get caught.
> >  The supplier must keep track of gallons of "clear"
> > and "dyed" that he has
> > bought and sold separately. He (supplier) collects
> > the motor fuel tax from
> > the buyer at time of the sale. Once a month the
> > supplier must send into the
> > state a statement of gallons sold "clear", along
> > with the amount of motor
> > fuel tax collected, and the amount of "dyed" gallons
> > sold. When an audit is
> > done the amount of gallons w/tax and gallons with
> > out/tax, amount of tax
> > monies paid must all come out.
> >  Like I said in my first post I work for a fuel
> > supplier for 13 years so I
> > am not just shooting in the dark. I have delivered
> > quite a few gallons to
> > the UP railroad. What was to be used for their
> > equipment was "dyed" and no
> > motor taxes were charged. What I delivered to them
> > that they used in their
> > trucks was "clear" and they did pay motor fuel tax
> > on those gallons.
> >  I know this might sound rather confusing but blame
> > it on the governmental
> > people who were afraid that they were not getting
> > their fair share of motor
> > fuel tax on diesel fuel.
> >  This is the last post I am going to post on this
> > subject and I do not want
> > to start a flame. So I am going to say it one more
> > time.....If "clear"
> > diesel fuel is bought you will be charged state
> > motor fuel tax! If "dyed"
> > diesel fuel is bought no motor fuel tax will be
> > charged!
> >  Myron Dudenbostel
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <milepost206@mchsi.com>
> > To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:01 PM
> > Subject: [CBQ] Fuel Dye
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Myron & Bill,
> > >
> > > The railroads are exempt from motor fuel tax in
> > every state I know of
> > > and since rr diesels are not motor vehicles, they
> > are exempt from the
> > > accompanying dye additive that is placed in diesel
> > fuel for motor
> > vehicles.
> > >
> > > Randy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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