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Subject: [CBQ] Re:Burlington Shops
From: William Barber <clipperw@EarthLink.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 12:25:35 -0600
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John,

In the days of steam, the RR's Mechanical Dept. often worked very 
closely with the locomotive builders in developing the locomotive 
design. While some steam locomotives designs were carried over to 
another RR for various reasons, most were unique to an individual RR 
and individual orders. In some cases, the Mechanical Dept. did all of 
the design work and then turned it over to the builder for manufacture. 
Mechanical Depts. were much larger then. So very likely, the contract 
between the two companies for an order of locomotives, probably 
included a provision that the RR received or retained the rights to the 
design. Remember that there was tremendous competition between specific 
RRs and locomotive design was part of the competitive "edge". Think a 
Pennsy K4s pacific against a New York central J1e hudson.  In most 
cases, the various appliance manufactures for items like injectors, 
feed water heaters, air brakes, headlights, etc. called on and sold 
directly to the RRs who would then specify the component's application 
on the new locomotive during manufacture. That practice continues to 
this day on diesel locomotives, but the basic locomotive designs are 
owned by the manufacturer.

The recently delivered Metra locomotives from MPI in Boise, ID are 
interesting in that the engine and some other components are EMD 
designs for which EMD had no connection. The engine is basically a 645F 
model, supposedly modified by MPI, with a crankcase manufactured in 
Poland at a plant owned by GE and all the internal parts were reverse 
engineered and manufactured by GE at their plant  here in the U.S. The 
components were assembled and tested by MPI. For the most part, there 
are no patents on the design and where there were, they have expired.

Bill Barber

On Tuesday, February 3, 2004, at 10:11 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 09:29:19 -0500
>    From: "Shankland\(Train\)" <shankland@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Burlington Shops
>
>
>> The first eight O-5's, #5600-5607, were built by Baldwin Locomotive
>> Works for the CB&Q in 1930, the same time the Q's S-4 Hudsons were
>> also built by Baldwin. There is a strong resemblance between the these
>
>> two locomotives. Starting in 1936 the Burlington went back to
>> Baldwin's proven design and built copies in their own West Burlington
>> shops,
>
>
> I have always been curious about the relationship with Baldwin that
> permitted the Burlington to "copy" a Baldwin design. Weren't there
> patent infringements etc.?
>
> John


 

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