Bob, Russ,
What confused me was the discussion about a non inked side which doesn't
smear in the rain and reading the document lighted from behind. It
seems to me that with a stylus for writing your top copy will have
writing only on the back, and it will be reversed if you try to read it
from the back side. It would be readable only by looking through the
paper (or in a mirror). Subsequent copies would be darker since they
are inked on both sides, but only readable from the "front." If you turn
the copy over wouldn't the writing be mirror image and not legible? It
seems likely the bottom copy would be on the "front" side only as using
a double sided carbon would really get the backing plate filthy.
I can relate to the black hands and fingerprints, but the half pint must
be only for summer or very temperate climates. I should think it would
require a full pint, mixed in a gallon of coffee, to make it through a
winter night in the midwest.
Thanks again for the education.
Mike
Bob Weber wrote:
> Also, with carbon on both sides all copies were very legible. If you've
every tried making 5 copies using regular single-sided carbon paper you
know that the writing on the 5th copy could be very dim. If there were
ever any disputes concerning train orders you want to make sure all
copies are legible and read the same. Also, railroad management knew
that the use of double-sided carbons would result in agent/operators
having perpetually dirty black hands leaving their fingerprints on
everything so that the user of that half pint hidden in the stationary
cabinet could be identified. Of course, I never ever had that problem.
Now want was that Rule number, 8?
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Russell Strodtz
> To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Fw: [n_scale] Dispatcher Phone recordings Train orders
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>
> Mike,
>
> The train order pages were very thin light colored paper. The carbons
> were a very heavy black. The text could be read whether it was on the
> front or back of the page. Looked the same. The advantage is that each
> carbon actually produced two copies, a front and a back.
>
> That is why some people call them "flimsies".
>
> Russ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Gardner" <gardnermc@earthlink.net>
> To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 01 October, 2003 18:33
> Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Fw: [n_scale] Dispatcher Phone recordings Train orders
>
>
>
>>Would one of you experienced guys explain for us younger guys how double
>>sided carbon paper worked? It would seem that beginning with the second
>>page in the stack, double sided carbons would resuld in both sides of
>>the page having writing; one side regular and one reversed. If you were
>>working with flimsies, wouldn't you see the writing on the back when
>>looking at the front?
>>
>>I can understand placing the carbon paper in backwards to make the copy
>>on the back of a flimsy, but the double sided bit confuses me.
>>
>>Thanks for the continuing education.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mike Gardner
>>
>>
>>PSHedgpeth@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>John I'm sure you're right about the old guys resisting the use of the
>>>typewriter, but I think that it took a special provision in the rules to
>>>allow the
>>>use of the typewriter.
>>>
>>>The old ops had a beautiful "script", but, as you said it was sometimes
>>>hard
>>>to read.
>>>
>>>I don't rember the carbon paper being two sided, but just remember seeing
>>>the
>>>operator, put it between the sheets with the ink side up, so it could have
>>>been two sided.
>>>
>>>For the younger guys, the idea of having the writing on the back was
>>>twofold..One that if ;you were reading the order in the rain the writing
>>>wouldn't get
>>>smeared and two the orders were written on thin tissue paper (that's why
>>>they
>>>were called "flimsies") and could be read holding them up in front of a dim
>>>cab light or by lantern light with the lantern held behind the paper rather
>>>than
>>>in front of it.
>>>
>>>Pete
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