I am still stumped as to why the CB&N, at the late date it was formed and
built, had independent designs for its equipment and structures. The much
earlier B&MR and other subsidiaries were Aurora and Chicago designs all the
way.
I think the NP was involved behind the scenes and there must have been some
consideration to the CB&N, at least before it actually was put into
operation, as being an extension of the NP south rather than the Q north.
We know the NP wasn't always a team player (as evidenced by the Chicago &
Northern Pacific venture and the much later routing of NP trains into
Chicago and Northwestern Terminal (over the C&NW???) Maybe there might be
something in the executive letter folios at the Newberry....
Charlie Vlk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Martin" <kmartin@c...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Chicago, Burlington and Northern
> Ken
>
> According to W.W.Baldwin's "Corporate History of the CB&Q" there were
> two CB&N'S, one in Illinois and one in Wisconsin/Minnesota. Both were
> formed in 1885, in November 1885 the Illinois line was leased to the
> CB&N in Wisconsin. In 1899 the lease was terminated and both lines were
> first leased and then sold to the CB&Q.
>
> I do not know if there were any operating agreements between them and
> the Q or if the Q had influence in the CB&N.
>
> Ken Martin
>
>
> Ken Ingram wrote:
> >
> > Hello! My name is Ken Ingram. I have recently come into the
> > possesion of December 1890 Chicago, Burlington and Northern Railroad
> > time tables/map, and I have a few questions:
> >
> > While there is heavy empahsis on St. Paul to Chicago and St. Louis,
> > the map depicts the entire Burlington system (in fact, the entire
> > U.S.). I had thought the CB&N was bought by the CB&Q in 1899. Was
> > the CB&N owned by CB&Q at this time 1890? My guess is yes.
> >
> > Is there a source on-line for a few paragraphs about the history of
> > the CB&N, and/or photos of the CB&N?
> >
> > Curious that the CB&N refers to itself in these time tables as "THe
> > Burlington". I have a modest collection of time tables and ephemera
> > for various select railroads. The CB&Q and it's predecessor roads
> > are very interesting to me personally. These CB&N RR time tables and
> > map from 1890 are as nice as any I've come across.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Ingram
>
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