Marshall
It is dangerous to say "never". The Q did use some
hoppers for engine coal. As a matter of fact the
picture behind my desk in my office, shows both
hoppers and gons being unloaded at the Galesburg coal
chute. If you will go to page 45 in BB#35, you will
see hoppers being loaded at the Valiar Mine. Also on
pages 89 and 105, you can see hoppers unloading at
Herrin Junction. In the late steam era, almost all the
"no bill" coal taken for company use was in hoppers.
John D. MItchell, Jr.
Coal Field Consulting Railroader.
--- Marshall Thayer <zephyr9903@e...> wrote:
> More for Wally -
>
> Paul started getting you into rolling stock and
> buildings - I'll add a few points here as well.
>
> You want to have both steam and diesel, and you'll
> have to service the steam. Tichy's "Chicago Bridge
> & Iron" Water Tank is identical to one of two in
> Burlington, IA, and elsewhere on the system. The Q
> had a wild mixture of coaling stations, from
> ramp-filled bins to pockets filled by "burro" cranes
> to the traditional standing elevator-bin
> arrangement. Regardless, the Q *never* used hoppers
> for company coal service. You had drop-bottom
> gondolas, either composite or all-steel. A resin
> kit was made for one composite type, but it may be
> sold out by now. "Near misses" may be represented
> by InterMountain's USRA composite, and by Red
> Caboose's steel-sided drop bottom gons.
>
> American Model Builders has also made a CB&Q
> standard station, and a model of Wood Tower, an
> interlocking at the Burlington (IA) bridge.
>
> For general freight stock with a Q flavor,
> InterMountain's "10'-6" Modified AAR" box car comes
> quite close to the Q's classic XM-32, with the "Way
> of the Zephyrs/Everywhere West script slogans on
> opposite sides of the car - while MDC's "40' Truss
> Side box car" bears a fair resemblance to the
> earlier XM-31. MDC's car is actually a Santa Fe
> prototype, and the trusses have angles reversed from
> the Q car, but they did such a good job adapting the
> classic arched "Everywhere West" to fit that you'll
> probably want at least one. Accurail's wood-sided
> reefer is actually a CB&Q prototype, so a couple in
> BREX lettering will look fine. If you want to raise
> some eyebrows, there's a simple way to make
> Athearn's standard 34' outside braced steel hopper
> look alot like an HT-5, which were distinctive by
> having two horizontal sheets to each side. Just
> scribe a line halfway up from the bottom, and the
> full length of the car (between braces), then use a
> needle to prick a row of rivets below the line. It
> takes less than 30 minutes a car (aside from
> painting and decaling) but looks noticeably
> different. You can jimmy the windows on an
> AT&SF-style Athearn Caboose to wind up with four
> windows per side, widen the cuploa, and replace the
> cupola sides for a single centered window, and the
> result looks a lot like a Q NE-10 (although it's 2
> feet too short) - a more complicated project when
> you're feeling up to a challenge.
>
> P2K makes 50' auto cars, both with and without end
> doors, both of which are close for Q and have been
> (probably will be again) marketed in Q paint. Their
> single door 50 footer is also goos for a Q car.
> Their 50' Greenville mill gondola had a near-Q
> prototype and has been issued in Q paint. Some of
> these are off the market, but watch train shows,
> swap meets and out-of-the-way hobby shops for
> leftovers.
>
> Passenger stuff is not-so-great for CB&Q, but there
> are three dead-ringers, and a number of "close
> enoughs" you might like to try: ConCor's Budd
> Slumber Coach, 10-6 sleeper, and Solarium Dome are
> all CB&Q prototypes. They aren't the finest quality
> models by today's standards, but they look about
> right. Rivarossi's heavyweight RPO Baggage doesn't
> match a Q car directly, but it bears enough of a
> resemblance that you can paint and letter one or two
> in the 1935-1949 series and be reasonably pleased.
> Again, not an exact match, but Athearn's heavyweight
> 70' baggage car can stand-in for the 1540-1566
> series. I forget the name of the outfit, but
> someone's making a rebuilt WW II troop kitchen car
> that fits the CB&Q's fleet of 300. (someone on the
> group will tell you <grin>.
>
> Rivarossi's 12-1 Pullman resembles a dozen or so
> sleepers that the Q bought in the late 40s - some
> stayed in Pullman green, and some became silver with
> black lettering. The Q Connection (member Dave
> Lotz's secret identity) has produced a kit for the
> smooth-sided baggage cars the Q built at Havelock.
> None of the new Walthers Budd cars are Q prototype,
> but some might look good to you. No one makes a
> really Q-looking heavyweight coach, (Athearn's has
> too few windows, spaced too widely) - but if you get
> a couple, letter them in the 6100s, and tell people
> it's a little-known rebuild <tehee>.
>
> None of this was to detract from what Paul said, but
> to give you some more targets. Modeling the CB&Q
> isn't nearly as frustrating as it was 40 years ago
> <LOL>!
>
>
> Marshall Thayer
> Consulting Model Railroader
> Las Vegas, NV
>
>
>
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