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From: "Marshall Thayer" <zephyr9903@e...>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:30:55 -0700
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More for Wally -

Paul started getting you into rolling stock and buildings - I'll add a few 
points here as well.

You want to have both steam and diesel, and you'll have to service the steam. 
Tichy's "Chicago Bridge & Iron" Water Tank is identical to one of two in 
Burlington, IA, and elsewhere on the system. The Q had a wild mixture of 
coaling stations, from ramp-filled bins to pockets filled by "burro" cranes to 
the traditional standing elevator-bin arrangement. Regardless, the Q *never* 
used hoppers for company coal service. You had drop-bottom gondolas, either 
composite or all-steel. A resin kit was made for one composite type, but it may 
be sold out by now. "Near misses" may be represented by InterMountain's USRA 
composite, and by Red Caboose's steel-sided drop bottom gons.

American Model Builders has also made a CB&Q standard station, and a model of 
Wood Tower, an interlocking at the Burlington (IA) bridge.

For general freight stock with a Q flavor, InterMountain's "10'-6" Modified 
AAR" box car comes quite close to the Q's classic XM-32, with the "Way of the 
Zephyrs/Everywhere West script slogans on opposite sides of the car - while 
MDC's "40' Truss Side box car" bears a fair resemblance to the earlier XM-31. 
MDC's car is actually a Santa Fe prototype, and the trusses have angles 
reversed from the Q car, but they did such a good job adapting the classic 
arched "Everywhere West" to fit that you'll probably want at least one. 
Accurail's wood-sided reefer is actually a CB&Q prototype, so a couple in BREX 
lettering will look fine. If you want to raise some eyebrows, there's a simple 
way to make Athearn's standard 34' outside braced steel hopper look alot like 
an HT-5, which were distinctive by having two horizontal sheets to each side. 
Just scribe a line halfway up from the bottom, and the full length of the car 
(between braces), then use a needle to prick a row of rivets below the line. It 
takes less than 30 minutes a car (aside from painting and decaling) but looks 
noticeably different. You can jimmy the windows on an AT&SF-style Athearn 
Caboose to wind up with four windows per side, widen the cuploa, and replace 
the cupola sides for a single centered window, and the result looks a lot like 
a Q NE-10 (although it's 2 feet too short) - a more complicated project when 
you're feeling up to a challenge.

P2K makes 50' auto cars, both with and without end doors, both of which are 
close for Q and have been (probably will be again) marketed in Q paint. Their 
single door 50 footer is also goos for a Q car. Their 50' Greenville mill 
gondola had a near-Q prototype and has been issued in Q paint. Some of these 
are off the market, but watch train shows, swap meets and out-of-the-way hobby 
shops for leftovers.

Passenger stuff is not-so-great for CB&Q, but there are three dead-ringers, and 
a number of "close enoughs" you might like to try: ConCor's Budd Slumber Coach, 
10-6 sleeper, and Solarium Dome are all CB&Q prototypes. They aren't the finest 
quality models by today's standards, but they look about right. Rivarossi's 
heavyweight RPO Baggage doesn't match a Q car directly, but it bears enough of 
a resemblance that you can paint and letter one or two in the 1935-1949 series 
and be reasonably pleased. Again, not an exact match, but Athearn's heavyweight 
70' baggage car can stand-in for the 1540-1566 series. I forget the name of the 
outfit, but someone's making a rebuilt WW II troop kitchen car that fits the 
CB&Q's fleet of 300. (someone on the group will tell you <grin>.

Rivarossi's 12-1 Pullman resembles a dozen or so sleepers that the Q bought in 
the late 40s - some stayed in Pullman green, and some became silver with black 
lettering. The Q Connection (member Dave Lotz's secret identity) has produced a 
kit for the smooth-sided baggage cars the Q built at Havelock. None of the new 
Walthers Budd cars are Q prototype, but some might look good to you. No one 
makes a really Q-looking heavyweight coach, (Athearn's has too few windows, 
spaced too widely) - but if you get a couple, letter them in the 6100s, and 
tell people it's a little-known rebuild <tehee>.

None of this was to detract from what Paul said, but to give you some more 
targets. Modeling the CB&Q isn't nearly as frustrating as it was 40 years ago 
<LOL>!


Marshall Thayer
Consulting Model Railroader
Las Vegas, NV



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