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Re: [BRHSlist] Sterling Rock Falls Branch

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Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Sterling Rock Falls Branch
From: Mike Spoor <CBQRR@j...>
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:28:38 -0600
Cc: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
The information I have shows that #69/64 originated in Cicero and went
west to Barstow. Some engineer time books I have from 1953 and 1954 show
the TR-2s working these trains. After mid-1954 the time books show
usually a pair of GP-7s, sometimes a lone SD-7.

Can anyone add to this?

Mike Spoor


On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:37:29 -0600 "Tamerlane" <TheVLBG@s...>
writes:
>Mike/Dustin,
>
>Mike is correct that during the period mentioned #85/86 and the Fox 
>River
>were powered by TR2's.
>
>I can't really say what was used Rock Falls to Earlville. For some 
>reason I
>think that local was actually run out of Rock Falls.
>
>As far as Barstow is concerned it was a little different. The track 
>condition
>Mendota to Denrock was much better, that is why it was still used for
>under-powered and over-tonnage trains right through the 70's. It did
>reach the point that #88 was more likely to go that way than via 
>Oregon.
>At least into early '52 they were still trying to run through service 
>to
>Barstow. I do not know if these trains actually originated at Cicero 
>or
>Eola but they did have a scheduled #69/64 that went to Barstow.
>During the '50 to early '52 period this train was still handled by 
>steam,
>normally a S4A but also by O5A's. It could very well be that when 
>this
>operation was either discontinued or dieselized that they went with 
>TR2's.
>
>I noticed at the time that those "Information Only" freight schedules 
>in the
>timetable didn't get updated very often. There were sometimes trains 
>that
>did not run on any regular basis or the times shown were not even 
>close
>to the normal operation. Must have been some communication failures
>between the Marketing and Operating Departments.
>
>The VLBG
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Mike Spoor 
> To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com 
> Cc: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, 03 November, 2001 19:00
> Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Sterling Rock Falls Branch
>
>
> Dustin: I have some data for you. Beginning in the early 1950s and 
>up
> until the summer of 1954, the Q ran "cow and calf" TR-2s on the 
>way
> freights to Streator and to Barstow. They may have run them to 
>Rock
> Falls as well. The railroad began using GP-7s most of time once they 
>were
> delivered in 1952 and 1953. I believe that the Rock Falls switcher 
>was
> usually an NW-2. I am pretty sure that the GP-7 was standard during 
>the
> 1960s. Karl, Leo and some of the guys who worked that line might be 
>able
> to tell us more.
>
> Mike Spoor 
>
> On Sat, 03 Nov 2001 20:39:18 -0000 dholschuh@y... writes:
> >I recently purchased a CB&Q timetable from 1963 for the C&A 
> >divisions.Does anyone have any idea what type of motive power was 
> >used on the Sterling Rock Falls branch in the mid 50's to late 
>60's. 
> >Also it states that that between Denrock and Sterling that the 
>train 
> >was a mixed.Any clue on how passengers were accomendated on these 
> >runs. Thankyou for your help.
> >
> >Dustin Holschuh
> >Rock Falls,IL
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