Thanks Mike for the info. I have 545 and have started the mod. As of today,
I moved the ladder on the tender to the right side, installed a non
operating cuckoo clock head light on the tender, although it appears that a
light could easily be installed. I'm in the process of removing the stock
coal load and will replace with something more realistic.
I've removed the smoke box front and head light and will install a cuckoo
clock head light this weekend. I have not yet figured out how to power the
head light. Has anyone done this yet?
Ray Bedard
San Jose
From: Mike Spoor <CBQRR@j...>
Reply-To: BRHSlist@egroups.com
To: BRHSlist@egroups.com
CC: BRHSlist@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Headlights and the P2K 0-8-0
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:23:52 -0500
Here is some data that will be helpful for the modelers regarding
headlights and number plates. As always, the details are a function of
date and location. Within the next couple of weeks, I should be able to
provide headlight and number plate details for each engine #540-549.
1. #540 - In June 1954 it was out of service at Congress Park. It had a
round number plate on front of smoke box. It had new Pyle headlight on
smoke box. Still had cuckoo clock headlight on tender. "Steam Locos of
the Burlington" says it was sold for scrap in 4-54. My photo obviously
is of #540 as it ended service.
2 #542 - In Sept 1937 it was at Clyde with a number plate and cuckoo
clock headlight. Cuckoo clock headlight on tender.
3. #543 - In December 1951 it was at Centralia (see CB&Q In Color Vol 1,
page 94). It had new Pyle headlight, but no number plate. Also had Pyle
headlight on tender.
4. #544 - Stored at Centralia in September 1952 (see Steam Locos of the
Burlington, page 64). It had number plate and Pyle headlight. Cuckoo
clock light on tender.
5. #545 - Was in Minneapolis in Sept 1937. No number plate and original
cuckoo clock headlight. In August 1950 it was at W. Quincy. Same
details. Information I have indicates #545 never got a number plate and
kept cuckoo clock healight.
6. #548 - Was at Centralia in Oct 1937 (see Steam Locos of the
Burlington, page 65). It has a number plate and cuckoo clock headlight.
Cuckoo clock headlight on tender.
7. #549 - Also in Centralia in 1950 (see CB&Q In Color Vol 1, page 94).
It had a number plate and original cuckoo clock headlight. Also had
cuckoo clock light on tender. But by September 1955 it had a Pyle
headlight and a Pyle headlight on tender (see Burlington Route Steam
Finale by Lloyd Stagner, page 36). Somewhat intriguing that the Q
changed the lights on #549 between 1950 and 1955 on a steam swithcer was
was obviously going to be retired soon.
I will provide more data later. This should help the modelers get
started..
Mike Spoor
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:30:04 -0400 "Sauer, John" <jsauer@e...>
writes:
>
>Thanks to all who responded for the feedback on details on the CB&Q
>0-8-0.
>If anyone has any further info on the details of the F-1, I would love
>to
>learn more. Such as which specific engines had a smokebox front
>number
>plate, which had the airpump walkovers (at least for engine numbers
>545 and
>549, the P2K offerings), and at what time period. The cuckoo clock
>headlight, from what I have read, was replaced with a visor headlight
>on
>some engines at a later date. Is this true and when and on which
>numbers?
>If anyone had other photos other than the Morning Sun, Four Way West
>and
>Rail Model Journal Aug 2000 photos, let us know what you see. All in
>all,
>as per my prior message to the List, these 0-8-0's are really
>fantastic
>models. For HO modelers and CB&Q fans, these really are the good old
>days,
>I think.
>
>Second, on the issue of the use of headlights, I saw Jeff Ford's
>comments on
>current practice and early steam practice. Does anyone have any info
>on the
>daytime use of headlights on Q steam in the 1950's? In general with
>steam,
>I have never been clear about daytime use of headlights, as many
>photos seem
>to show no headlight on. I assume daylight use of headlights evolved
>as a
>safety practice more in the diesel era. Anyone have any good info on
>headlight use in the 50's?
>
>Thanks.
>John Sauer.
>
>
>
>
>
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