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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Train Horn - Was types of gallery cars
As a railroad employee, I was fortunate to have access to 14th Street, and review some drawings there that showed some of the details and accessories of the suburban equipment.  I was allowed to copy the attachment of the horn that I presume was used on the Budd control cars.  The drawing is dated 1973 so it was probably associated with the BN control cars, but from the sounds I remember, the horns on the E-Units and the six CB&Q control cars were identical or at least very similar.

The drawing is for a Leslie Type S-2M-BO Dual Tone (2 chime) horn.  The bells are marked as #31 and #44, which probably has something to do with the pitch or frequency of the sound.  The drawing does not identify any frequencies, but I also scribbled a hand-written note indicating that the sounds were D-Flat and G above Middle C.  I can't remember where I got that information.

Therefore, I looked on the internet and found a reference to the sound of a Leslie S-2M on a moving locomotive.  The pitches were both 3 half-notes higher (E and B-Flat) than what I wrote down years ago, but given the doppler effect, I think D-Flat and G will get you pretty close.  If you have a piano, play those two notes and see what you think.

I don't have any information on the bells, but they were standard bells, not electronic.

Glen Haug  

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] types of gallery cars
 
As many of you likely know, the Rapido Budd commuter cars are in.  As are the BN E's.
 
I am pleased to note that Rapido corrected the major mistakes noted on the original offering of the BN 3-car sets.  The (model) 802 was produced without the nameboard.  And the one non-toilet car was replaced with a toilet one (with different number, of course).  Customers should be very pleased about that.
 
All in all, I like the train a lot (One E pulling the two three car sets).  Wish it weren't so pink, but I can live with that.  I hope.
 
Not mentioned in any Rapido sales documents (that I can remember), but the cab cars come with a speaker and a 21 pin plug for a decoder.  I DO like sounds to come from the proper place, so it's my intention to install same.
 
Which leads to a couple of questions:
 
What horns were used on the E's and on the cab cars?  I can see on the E that there's a single horn and a paired horn.  I assume they were "played" separately.
 
And for the bell(s):  What kind of bell was on the E's?  What kind was on the cab cars?  Maybe electronic????
 
 
Only other mod I have in mind is to replace the couplers with Sergents.  That should close the spacing between cars up a bit.  As it is, it's quite presentable, though to me it appears maybe 6-10 scale inches too much.  Rapido DOES include longer shank couplers--very thoughtful.
 
Rapido also includes what I take to be inter-car MU and power cables, in a little bag.  No directions at all.  But I figure a person could figure it out.  For myself, I intend to leave them off, as I am Free-mo, and don't have a permanent layout where they can be setup as a "unit train" for long periods.
 
 
If possible, please let me know about the horn and bell sounds--I'd like the sound to be as correct as possible.  Oh, yeah.  The E does come with the generator sound, over on F15--there are 28 functions listed.
 
And another "Oh, yeah":  To me, the car lighting looks GREAT.  My other Rapido passenger train is made up of their New Haven cars, and the lights are obnoxiously bright.  These look MUCH better.  To me.
 
 
Ed
 
Edward Sutorik
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