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The weigh date of December 1940 at Plattsmouth is most likely when the 78556 was overhauled and repainted with the tri-color herald.
To the best of my knowledge no CB&Q freight car, with the possible exception of pre-BREX reefers, had tri-color heralds until the advent of the Chinese red scheme in 1959.
Hol
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From: Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@hotmail.com>
Date: 7/30/24 4:02 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Date of "Burlington Route" emblem?
I haven’t researched the first use of the tri-colour herald so perhaps someone else know that answer.
As regards the car in your photo, I think you have the dates confused. 37300-37799 were built in 1909 by AC&F, renumbered to 77300-77741 in 1926 when BREX was established and
then to 78200-78699 in 1927-8. The last renumbering was probably when they were rebuilt with steel underframes, etc.
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 9:37 AM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Date of "Burlington Route" emblem?
Do you know what CB&Q freight car classes the tri-color herald was first used upon? The earliest I know about is 1959 or after – when Chinese Red arrived. BRE
may have used the tri-color herald earlier than 1940. I attached a photo of BREX 78556, a truss rod reefer built in 1927-28. According to your freight car roster book, it was renumbered in the 77300-77741 series, but no renumber date was given. While it’s
a grayscale photo, I think you will agree that it’s a tri-color herald. The color herald could have been and probably was added when the car was repainted, but no date for that is available. I know the 1942 war emergency reefers and their rebuilds after the
war had the tri-color herald, and may have been the first BRE cars so lettered. So perhaps 78556 was repainted after 1940 and escaped renumbering, but we don’t know the answer to either question.
Nelson Moyer
I think that the design was changed to incorporate a red element in 1940.
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
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