Re: [CBQ] Bentonite Cars

["William Hirt" <whirt@fastmail.com>]

To add to Leo's reply, the 1968 assignment sheet specifically says this about covered hoppers in the silicia sand service:

"Cleaned and assigned for sillica sand loading only."

For covered hoppers in 181000-181899 series as of early 1968, the following is shown:

Total series 900 cars:

Destroyed (15 cars): 181000, 181083, 181140, 181179, 181212, 181225, 181243, 181287, 181309, 181317, 181420, 181465, 181550, 181627, 181892

Free runners (not assigned - 216 cars): 181001, 181003-181005, 181014, 181020, 181026-181027, 181032-181033, 181041, 181043-181045, 181052, 181063, 181065, 181069, 181075-181077, 181079, 181085, 181090, 181095, 181105-181106, 181112, 181117-181118, 181120, 181130, 181142, 181151, 181154, 181157, 181162, 181164, 181168, 181172, 181178, 181187-181188, 181192, 181195, 181197-181200, 181203-181204, 181213- 181217, 181220, 181239-181240, 181245, 181248, 181251, 181256-181257, 181262, 181265, 181271, 181275, 181283-181286, 181290, 181292-181295, 181298-181299, 181308, 181312-181313, 181315, 181320, 181323, 181334, 181342, 181348-181350, 181355-181357, 181359, 181361, 181365-181367, 181369, 181375, 181380. 181385, 181388, 181395, 181401-181405, 181408, 181413, 181428, 181430, 181436, 181452, 181462-181463, 181467-181468, 181472-181473, 181478, 181496, 181502, 181505, 181512, 181520, 181522, 181524, 181526, 181529-181530, 181554, 181566-181567, 181571, 181574, 181577, 181580, 181599, 181610, 181625, 181630, 181636, 181643, 181646-181648, 181651, 181654, 181656, 181671-181672, 181677, 181686, 181699, 181703-181704, 181716, 181718, 181728, 181735, 181751, 181776-181777, 181782-181784, 181787, 181792-181794, 181799-181804, 181806-181808, 181813-181814, 181816, 181822-181823, 181826, 181828, 181832, 181835, 181837, 181839, 181845, 181852-181853, 181864-181865, 181868-181870, 181872, 181875, 181877-181878,  181885, 181889, 181897, 181899

Cleaned and assigned for sillica sand loading only - 669 cars assigned. That is 74% of the series.

Bill Hirt

On 11/24/2023 8:44 PM, Leo Phillipp via groups.io wrote:

As fyi to the group. These covered hoppers were in specific commodity services. You didn’t  take a car from one service after it was emptied and place it in a different commodity. Cars were basically in three services, silica sand,cement and clay. I’m sure there were others but these three were the vast majority.

The cars I saw in silica sand were stenciled return to agent Ottawa,Oregon or Wedron,IL. Cement were stenciled return to agent La Salle,IL. Bentonite clay stenciling escapes me at the moment but my memory is they were loaded in Wyoming.

The reason cars were restricted was cross contamination as empty cars are never residue free. Especially these cars. Cement and clay can cling in the cars. You didn’t want clay or cement mixed into someone’s glass or fine sand and vis a verse.

Of course it did happen which resulted in rejected loads and claims against the RR at times depending on the level of contamination and the receivers specifications.

Leo Phillipp

On Nov 24, 2023, at 7:23 AM, Tom Mack via groups.io <thommack=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Attached is an update to the PDF attached to my earlier post. I added a section with the cars shown in their original wheel report order. As can be seen, these cars shipped in single to 5-car groups in the two wheel reports but each group could be placed anywhere in the train.

For example, on train 97 on 6/4/1966 you had:

1 car   for The Hanna Mining Company on line 17
5 cars for Reserve Mining on lines 58-62
1 car   for Empire Mining on line 66
2 cars for Erie Mining on lines 102-103
(9 cars total of bentonite on the train)

So it's interesting how the cars were blocked for the consignee, but the blocks could be distributed at different points in the train.

On train 97 on 7/2/1966 you have:

5 cars for Reserve Mining on lines 42-46
1 car   for IROORE (SCH, IL) on line 50
4 cars for Reserve Mining on lines 51-54
1 car   for Empire Mining on line 56 (interesting how this car is not blocked with the IROORE and Reserve Mining cars but is only 1 car away)
2 cars for Erie Mining on lines 86-87 (similar to the train on 6/4/1966 these cars for Erie Mining are much further back in the train)
(13 cars total of bentonite on the train)

--
Tom Mack
Cincinnati, OH
Modeling Chicago-Mpls/StP 1965-merger

<CB_Q Covered Hoppers in Bentonite Service - 1966 CB_Q Wheel Reports.pdf>

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