Re: [CBQ] Last Steam Locomotive in Mt. Morris?

["Fred Hilgenberg" <hilgy1954@comcast.net>]

There's a little info that may help from a discussion on the O Gauge Railroad Forum Nov. 2014

Question for Hot Water CB&Q Steam operations late 50s thru late 60s

For several years in the 1960s, the CB&Q ran their own steam program with 4-8-4 #5632 and 2-8-2 #4960.  A change in management quickly ended that adventure.

 

Just wanted to comment on those two engines that were mentioned above.  The #5632 was cut up in the early 1980's 

The #4960 Mikado avoided the scrap line and was eventually purchased by the Grand Canyon Railroad

 

What really muddies the water, so to speak, with the CB&Q "excursions" was, many a trip was made with #4960, and probably even #5632, in mixed freight service as part of an excursion. The 4960 made a lot of mixed freight excursions, even into the early/mid 1960s, with a coach or two on it's freight out of Chicago, and then did pick-ups and set-outs on the branch down to Ottawa, IL (as best as I can remember), all the while the photographers were allowed off to watch the work. When completed, they put their train "back together", with the passenger car/cars most likely on the headend then, and returned to Chicago.

 

So, even though the CB&Q ended all "regally scheduled, revenue" steam operations in the mid 1950s, or so, those "mixed freight/passenger" excursions into the 1960s were indeed "revenue" but NOT "regularly scheduled" with steam.

http://www.railpictures.net/sh...7C%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C

The freight pictures cited above were probably from the RR Club of Chicago's way freight fan trips, that went up to Oregon, IL, and with 2-8-2 4960 on the branch to Mt. Morris and Cable Printing. They actually did a bit of pick up/setout business on these trips. Believe 4-8-4 5632 was too heavy to go up to Mt. Morris. I had the good fortune to ride the 1960 version of the trip with the 4960.

 

#4960 was used in the Spring of 1965 at Savanna, IL when the Mississippi flooded the Burlington's trackage, shuttling both passenger and freight trains through the flood waters.

As for the timing, this little blurb would suggest the steam program was gone sometime in 1965.

Locomotive Fandom article on CB&Q 5632
https://locomotive.fandom.com/wiki/CB%26Q_No._5632
In 1965, Murphy retired as president of the CB&Q and his successor, Louis W. Menk, discontinued the steam program and ordered the overhaul of No. 5632 to be cancelled. Chicago steam preservationist Richard Jensen purchased No. 5632 in September 1965 and had it moved to the Chicago & Western Indiana Railroad's 47th Street roundhouse in Chicago where he stored his equipment, including CB&Q 2-8-2 Mikado type No. 4963 and Grand Trunk Western 4-6-2 Pacific type No. 5629.

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Grateful Fred
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