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Re: [CBQ] Caboose Markers

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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:20:06 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Caboose Markers

The CB&Q Waycar Book has some excellent photos of markers, including some close-up photos. Red was always to the rear, with green in the other three directions. Markers were fixed in one orientation, no rotation.


Nelson Moyer


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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Caboose Markers




Thank you Nelson and Leo.


Did the bracket have a spiggot on/ or holder in which the Marker sat?

Presumably the Marker could be rotated to hide the red aspect and show only green when the train was in the clear.


Looks like I need a good close up photo of the bracket.


I know that sometime in the 1950s the state of Colorado passed legislation to imporve safety for railroad workers; one of the consequnces was electric power for all Markers used within the state.

This would have applied to wooden C&S way cars.




On Friday, 1 April 2022, 11:06:42 am ACDT, Leo Phillipp via <> wrote:





The rule stating a train was a train only when it bore at least one marker  was in existence well beyond the end of the Burlington System in 1970. Markers were mounted on waycars at the rear corners where the side and end walls met. The Burlington marker brackets were curved so as to wrap around the corners . There were brackets at all four corners so that markers could be mounted at the rear regardless of which end of the waycar was the rear end.


Many kerosene marker lamps were modified and/or built with electric bulbs after the NE10 class waycars that had been built at Aurora,IL in 1930  started becoming  equipped with batteries for interior lights, etc. in 1947. The NE12 series that were built in Havelock,NE starting in 1954 and later series were built with electric service so they could use either oil or electric markers. 

To my knowledge none of the wood waycars were ever equipped with electricity. 


In essence the electric markers were simply modified oil markers. 

All my experience was in Illinois  so I’ve never seen a Burlington marker that wasn’t manufactured by Adlake but I can’t speak as to what was used farther west.



Leo Phillipp



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