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Re: [CBQ] Rapido SW1200

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Rapido SW1200
From: "Nelson Moyer" <npmoyer@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 00:24:19 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Rapido SW1200

That’s a double edged sword. Such chips are available, and Tru Color used them. The problem comes from the fact that factory paint doesn’t stay the same very long. The other problem is that color perception in sunlight is different than under layout lighting. As a prototype modeler, I want a paint that represents a compromise between the prototype factory paint, and how that factory paint would look under layout lighting. Since sunlight is so much more intense than our layout lighting, the paint would need to be lightened while maintaining the basic color spectrum. Give me that and I can further fade the paint according to the age of the paint on the model.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Leo Phillipp via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 6:55 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Rapido SW1200

 

I agree with Charlie. 

From 1968-1972 I moved around many Q locomotives at the Eola,IL roundhouse(GP7s,SWs,Sd7s and9s) there were still units painted in the black and grey.Simply put colors depended on how long it had been since the last paint job.

 

As a member of the BRHS board of directors I’ll try to address Nelson’s comment that the BRHS should work with manufacturers to provide accurate colors. The only way the BRHS can do so is for someone to step forward with a paint chip of the grey/black paint scheme that has never been in sunlight for model manufacturers who want to paint their product the way it came out of the paint booth.

 

In the BRHS members newsletter(the Zephyr) the BRHS has shared the correct paint samples for the “grey back “ paint scheme applied to F units and also the paint scheme applied to wooden structures up until the late 1960s when white was applied. We did so because paint samples were made available.

 

Leo Phillipp

 



On Sep 7, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net> wrote:



Nelson-

Take one photo of the prototype in your basement under identical lighting conditions…..

or take the photo of the models against the prototype in full sun.   Guarantee the colors will be different. 

The models should not be the same colors…the prototypes certainly were not!

Charlie

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 3:55 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Rapido SW1200

 

Here you go. I took this photo under 5000 K lights.

 

Back Row, Left to Right: Model Flex repaint, BLI (recent issue), Stewart/Bowser

Front Row, Left to Right: Athearn, Rapido, Walthers P2K (recent issue)

 

The rest of the roster is packed, but I can tell you that some of the earlier BLI are dark like the Rapido with a hint of blue, and the Bachman S-2 is a ridiculous shade of light gray with a hint of brown. You’re seeing the best grays compared to the Rapido and BLI, the others are pretty close to correct to my eye.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Woodruff
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 3:31 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Rapido SW1200

 

Nelson, I would be interested in seeing a photo if you can post one.  The photo on the Rapido website of the CB&Q model I saw appeared to have been shot outdoors, which of course makes a difference in how the color is perceived.

 

thanks,

 

msw

spokane wa

 

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