Re: [CBQ] EMD SD45 Demonstrators on the Q

["jpslhedgpeth via groups.io" <jpslhedgpeth=aol.com@groups.io>]

Bill...Even though I am not and have never been involved in these conversations re moving engines DIT and/or to a location other than Illinois and  potential "crew pay" I appreciate the way that you have "consisely" laid out the "whole of the matter"...Even though there are those who have no interest in these things I for one while never being involved or having any reason to be involved I do appreciate your "taking on the Matter" and the "whys and wherefores" thereof.

Pete   

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From: William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com>
To: CBQ@groups.io
Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 11:02 am
Subject: Re: [CBQ] EMD SD45 Demonstrators on the Q

Tom,

In 1966, no railroad took delivery of locomotives in the state of Illinois if they could possibly avoid it due to the state tax on capital equipment that existed then. All locomotives were shipped dead in train (DIT) as a freight car to a location outside of Illinois for acceptance by the customer. In most cases, the DIT locomotives were placed near the head end of the train due to weight and so that the head end crew could keep watch over them. The Great Northern units were accepted in. Minneapolis. In 1970, the state of Illinois adopted its new constitution which, among other things, eliminated the tax on capital equipment. After that, many RRs begin arranging for acceptance of new EMD locomotives in the Chicago area. Cicero / Clyde was a common location for this to occur. The locomotives were usually started so that they could work in consist with Q power to their final destination. Transportation charges were exchanged for horsepower hours in agreements between the Q and the owning RR. Whether the DIT locomotive was coupled to the road consist or not, was a decision that the local management at Cicero would make, probably based on instructions from the main office. Although it would be traveling as a box car, there is no operational reason that the locomotive couldn’t be coupled to the rear of the power consist. However, I suppose that there may have been an issue with crew pay as they might consider it to be part of the locomotive consist and the weight on drivers pay calculation even though it wasn’t in service.

Bill Barber

Gravois Mills, MO

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