Scott and Nancy Glen has the information you need. For my part, I would be happy to get gallery cars (I think bi-levels is more of a C&NW term) in two basic types….the ones with the conductor compartments (short upper deck window on one end) and the “normal” car. The early cab cars would be an additional bonus. However, these cars need at least one of the power cars….or all three types. With CAD the variations would not be a huge additional project and the power cars could also be a big start on the modernized mainline cars and the standard upgraded coaches. And, oh, by the way, we need them in N Scale. There are cars available on Shapeways but so far they have not been offered in pre-HEP versions and without the added name panels…and appear to be a little crude as far as detail rendition. Charlie Vlk From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of zephyr98072
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fw: Looking for Bi-Level Interior Details Another comment. Your narrative does not say if he will include variations in the kit to model all of the bi-levels. A long time ago I made an inspection of all these cars at Aurora to record the differences in the cars, and determined that at least 10 different cars would need to be made to accurately model all of them.
Scott & Nancy, For your eyes only!! I have it on good authority that your friend should not put a lot of effort into the bodies if he thinks he is going to sell a lot of these in the not too distant future. The interior is another matter, as there are a lot of brass cars without them. I can provide scans of the original Budd drawings for the interiors, as I have for someone else, if he is willing to help me recoup the investment I made in the scans.
Dave
We are working with a member of our local Operations group who is a whiz at 3D printing. He is working on a project for us and himself to create a 3D printed kit of the CB&Q bi-level gallery cars. Along with printing the entire car, he plans to do the interiors as well. He is about as detailed of a guy as you're going to meet. The external portions of the coach are complete - now for the interior. We're looking for photos and/or details of the interiors. This would include the numbers, configuration and types of seats on both levels along with the width and number of steps going upstairs. Any other details would be wonderful. I've looked on the BRHS Flickr site, in BB1 and Olmstead's "of Zephyrs and Commuters" and haven't found much useful information. There are numerous external shots, but nobody seems to want to show the interiors. One of our Ops friends from Naperville is going to actually ride a dinky this weekend to try and get as much information and pictures as possible. What would be really helpful would be any diagrams or blueprints that may have existed. Does anyone in the group happen to know if anything like this and/or detailed photos exist? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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