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Re: [CBQ] Passenger Car Step Box

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Passenger Car Step Box
From: "Leo Phillipp via groups.io" <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 22:23:35 -0500
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I confused my Bulletins the paint test is in Rupert Gamlens’ , “Parsimonious-from Scrap to Stock” in BB59. On pg. 16 of that Bulletin, the 2nd of the article, There is a reference to the Q’s standard yellow paint in 1895 as part of the Aurora shop paint study. 

The paint matter I referenced below is on pg 23 of BB61 but it is not test related. Rather it is correspondence to and from the Aurora shop Supt. Trying to identify when the Q switched from yellow to green paint. The various correspondence narrow the time frame between 1899-1902. 

So, if the yellow paint on the inside of the step box is original And matches the Q’s standard yellow it could date the step box to pre 1900.

Leo Phillipp

On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:44 PM, qutlx1@aol.com wrote:


I’m not claiming to be an expert. In fact I’ll admit my ignorance on details of step boxes.
But........ I’ll refer you to the just published BRHS Bulletin 61 which contains a paint Life study at the Aurora shops comparing the old yellow with new various shades of green,etc. 

Further I’ll add that I suspect the wooden step boxes were made in the cabinet shop at the Aurora shops. Aurora built and rebuilt much of the Q’s passenger fleet. I suggest again, a reference to BB 61 for a picture of a pair of saw horses that I own that were built at the cabinet shop. I suspect many different wooden items were made at that shop. I’ve always felt that the wooden lockers we used in the Aurora,IL depot passenger men’s locker room were built at the cabinet shop.

Leo Phillipp

On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Joe Hardman <theoneafter909@sbcglobal.net> wrote:



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I will defer to the CB&Q experts for a definitive answer to your question, but the "musterd yellow" on the bottom very well could be the original finish. Whatever the case may be I stand by my previous post and encourage you not to do anything.

Joe Hardman
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