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From: "Ken Martin via groups.io" <kmartin537=surewest.net@groups.io>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 20:38:59 -0700
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Ed,

I am not certain but I don’t believe they did have any posts.

As far as accidents I can think of two

In 1939 at Napier, MO. the northbound Pioneer. Zephyr doing 55mph collided with 
an O-1. It pushed the O-1 back 125 ft and collapsed the front 35ft of the engine
killing the engineer and road foreman. The fireman jumped and lived. The engine 
was sent to Budd and was rebuilt in a month.

The other one of the original Twin Z running in Texas colided with a gas truck 
and burned.

Ken Martin


> On Jun 3, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Ed Pavlovic <cbq168a@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Was reading the latest Bulletin that came in the mail today and noticed the 
> photo of the Mark Twain Zephyr that struck the barge that was fouling the 
> track.
> 
> Made me wonder, I know I've looked in the cab of the Pioneer Zephyr at MSI 
> and simply don't remember, but did they have any type of collision posts to 
> give some protection to the engine crew?  You look at the front end of a 
> shovelnose and from the outside it doesn't look like it really is that much 
> more substantial construction than a streetcar or interurban would have, and 
> I've seen photos of those after a wreck.
> 
> Was the Burlington lucky enough not to have had major accidents with the 
> shovelnoses? 
> 
> Thanks to all of those involved in the production of this Burlington 
> Bulletin, an excellent job!
> 
> Ed Pavlovic





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