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Re: [CBQ] Old Eli

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From: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 01:38:37 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Old Eli

Thanks for the various contributions, although I’m not too sure if it is all relevant to the date when Old Eli appeared in the Burlington’s advertisement arsenal. As regards the race horse, and assuming that was the origin of the name for the owl, I presume it was fast and successful.

I’ve attached the advert for the Eli Limited from 1901 but I’m not sure if “Eli Limited” was the official or colloquial name for the train.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

The wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw, the less he spoke
The less he spoke, the more he heard
Why can’t we be like that wise old bird.


 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Archie Hayden
Sent: Friday, 26 October 2018 11:44 p.m.
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Old Eli

 

Eli was actually a race horse from Missouri back in the 1880s.  When the owl 🦉 came around, being a wise old bird he may have borrowed the name of a proven winner.


On Oct 25, 2018, at 9:47 PM, Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

Back in January 2015, there was a short discussion about Old Eli, the CB&Q’s owl. He was used in various advertisements, there was the Eli Limited between Chicago and Kansas City, an Old Eli dining car on the Kansas City Flyer (renamed from the Eli Limited?) and there was the Fast Owl Express between Chicago and St Louis. The 1901 advert for the Eli Express for stated it had been running for 16 years so presumably it started about 1885. Does anyone have an earlier reference to Eli or a date when the Kansas City Flyer received that name?

In a biography of Charles Elliott Perkins (who was President of the CB&Q 1876-1901), it stated that the family home when he was growing up was named “The Owl’s Nest”. Coincidence?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

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