| Kenneth and Jim and all- Joe Douda was a dear friend and we discussed the Z on a number of occasions at his house and mine. I have copies of everything he had on the car and being a long time member of the BRHS am very aware of Hol’s Bulletin treatment of the Z, rebuilding, and it’s replacement. I’ve gone through Newberry Aurora shop notes referencing the car and Rupert and I have been combing railroad journals for mention of the car. There is a hint of a second car (Y?) existing in Joe’s data and other sources but it may be bogus as it doesn’t seem logical there would have been a need or staff for a second car system wide. I have found no references to the car in the Newberry other than the Aurora Shops material....it doesn’t appear in any rosters or official’s correspondence....strange given the key role it played in the West Burlington brake trials. The car was exhibited at the 1893 Columbia’s Exhibition and while we know the space number in the Transportation Building, it apparently evaded photographers. Likewise, no photo of the WB trials show the car although it is described in the train consists there and in off-road tours afterwards. The search continues..... Thanks Charlie Vlk Hi Charlie, I corresponded with the late Joe Douda back in 1984/1985 about the Q’s dynamometers. He sent me data about two of them. One he said was CB&Q 204725, and sent me photocopies of a photo and diagram for this car. You are welcome to copies of both if you like. He stated that this car was built at Aurora in 7/1885 as CB&Q 90151, a thirty-foot car (as is shown in the diagram).The diagram shows a normal-width cupola with six windows in the side of the car body and end platforms. He stated that it was renumbered in 1904 to 204725 and converted to a work train caboose (retaining No. 204725) in November 1929, then scrapped at Eola in October 1934. He also mentioned car 204726 which his records showed as being built in Aurora. He mentioned that some records indicated that the car was the former “CB&Q Z”, but that no original builder or date was shown. He did say that he had found notations indicating that the car was rebuilt in 1900 and retired in October 1929. He sent me a photocopy of Z which he said was made from a photocopy owned by a friend. Again, you are welcome to a copy if you like. It shows a side door, four windows, a narrow cupola and no platform on the end in the photo. (the narrow cupola appears similar to some early waycars in Randy Danniel’s book). Best regards, Ken Middleton Portage, MI krmiddle@charter.net All- I am trying to find what information the Northeastern / Ambroid CB&Q Dynamometer Car Z HO Kit was based on. Back in the late 60s or early 70’s I called Northeastern asking about it and they had no files on the kit. It is a fairly accurate model and must have been based on drawings and photos that have not surfaced yet. The source of the pen and ink rendering of the car likewise has not been discovered. The drawings of the car that appeared in railroad journals do not show the configuration of the car as it was built judging from early photos. The kit instructions bear the note “From the collection of Russ Shiel”. Does anyone have any idea who he might be? Thank you, Charlie Vlk
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