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To: "Leo Phillipp via Groups.Io" <CBQ@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] New Man
From: "Doug Hartman" <douglas.p.hartman@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 19:37:17 -0500
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Ok, sorry to finger him. The story was on his way from one end of the waycar to 
the other, airborne, Rip snagged the stove chimney. He stepped off in Savanna 
covered in soot, putting an end to his dressed up night on the town. I heard 
the story from a few sources....
Doug

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From: Leo Phillipp via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] New Man

Doug,

I try to avoid naming names to protect the guilty. I haven't heard the Rip 
story so thanks for that.and don't doubt it's authenticity based on rides 
behind "Velvet". On the other hand I'm sure hoggers had lots of nicknames for 
Condrs and brakeman. The one I heard on a regular basis was " he couldn't 
switch out a one car funeral train without making a double move".

Then there was the investigation that I was invited "to determine your 
responsibility......."
On a certain incident at Congress Park and while the entire train crew 
testified that the stop at the south wye was routine, mgmt. apparently didn't 
agree as they gave the hogger 30 days off for turning over several hundred feet 
of mainline rail and making a royal mess of that nights dinky parade.

Which leads me to an upcoming article in this falls BRHS Bulletin where yours 
truly thought that at minimum his RR career was going to have a 45-60 day gap 
and was maybe over. But a member of management stepped forward before an 
investigation could even be called and said the train crew was not at fault. It 
was trespassers.

For those on this list who aren't BRHS members you'll actually save money by 
getting your membership applications in vs. buying the Bulletin over the 
counter .

Dave W. the name you supplied wasn't "velvet". His nickname was a vegetable 
that is widely grown here in northern Illinois and enjoyed from late June to 
early Sept. it is also widely canned and frozen for year round consumption.

Leo

> On Aug 30, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Doug Hartman <douglas.p.hartman@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Velvet was Emsinger (spelling?). Leo, speaking of the old smooth-touch, you 
> hear about the time he sent Rip from one of way car to the other? I believe 
> Ripetto was in his "Savanna night out" best. I think that might be where the 
> "velvet" nickname was aquired. Or maybe not. Heard that story like 45 years 
> ago.
> Doug
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
> Original Message
> From: Dave Weber
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:38 AM
> To: CBQ@groups.io
> Reply To: CBQ@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] New Man
> 
> R L Moore fireman date 12-16-45 engr date 7-19-55
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Leo Phillipp via Groups.Io 
>> <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't ask me why these stories pop into my head as I can't explain.
>> 
>> It was January 1973, yes on the BN, but it's still a Q story. I was a newly 
>> minted brakeman with all the "extensive training" of time period. Three 
>> student trips, one on the Irish Mail, one at Eola yard and a third that 
>> escapes my memory or simply got eliminated.
>> 
>> At any rate I'm now the head brakeman on a westbound freight in the siding 
>> at Burke,IL meeting an eastbound crawling its way up the hill from Savanna. 
>> After the eastbounder clears the "DS" comes on the radio and says to us he 
>> can't get the west switch at Burke to operate. So he continues "it's OK 
>> operate the west switch at Burke on manual per Rule xyz and restore the 
>> switch to power per the rule". As a fully qualified brakeman with two, maybe 
>> three student trips and without any review or testing on the Consolidated 
>> Code of Operating Rules, I had not the slightest idea what he was talking 
>> about and so informed the very senior engineer. 
>> 
>> This engineer, Ray, also know as "Velvet" for his train handling skills 
>> advised the "DS" that this would take a little time as he had to show the 
>> "new man" how to perform this task. In his wingtips Ray walked up in the 
>> snow with me to the switch, no I'm not exaggerating ,explained and showed me 
>> how to take the switch off power, throw that massive mainline switch and 
>> stressed how to put it back on power once the lead motor was on the switch.
>> 
>> I don't remember if it was this trip or others that Ray was beside himself 
>> explaining how he ran trains on this track at 100 MPH that now were covered 
>> with 40 MPH slow orders and was really beside himself as to far things had 
>> decayed. Clearly he was among many of the most senior Aurora Division 
>> employees who never thought the glory days of Zephyrs, high speed extras and 
>> specials would ever disappear.
>> 
>> I don't have an engineers seniority list handy but my recollection is Ray's 
>> seniority date was from from the early 1930s. He also once shared he 
>> actually started on the Q on the section gang at Streator,IL explaining to 
>> me why only a few ties were changed out at time vs several in a row.
>> 
>> Leo
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