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July 7, 2017
Glen, Hol and Rupert - Here's another inserted/attached image showing
bridge construction at Princeton, IL. It's dated July 18, 1899. Is the location
Big Bureau Creek? If the same location as Hol's earlier image showing start
of construction for the original gauntlet span in 1886, then this makes for
an interesting "before and after" comparison:
Train No. 22 appears to have been flagged to a brief halt before edging out
onto the new bridge at a crawl. If you look very closely, you can see the flag
man at the left edge of the right-of-way facing the locomotive. In charge of the
train is a brand new unidentified Class P-1 Compound 4-4-2 type constructed by
Baldwin in 1899. Interesting to know that these steel bridge spans lasted
slightly over a hundred years before being replaced by the BNSF with
concrete spans. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 7/7/2017 2:39:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
The caption below this photo indicates that the bridge is over Walnut Creek
in the vicinity of Princeton. I don't believe this is correct as Walnut
Creek is down by Altona. I believe this photo is at Big Bureau Creek,
present day Bridge 106.58, just west of Princeton. It appears to me that
we are looking west down the long tangent toward Wyanet. The bridge
in this photo (and Bridge 110.26 over West Bureau Creek) was constructed in
1886 when the 2nd (south) track was constructed between Princeton and Wyanet,
but the bridges were only constructed wide enough for gauntlet tracks, which
were protected by semaphore signals from 1886 to 1899. The construction
going on in the photo is of the 1899 construction to replace the deck truss
and DPG approaches with true double track bridges. The 119' Deck Trusses
were just recently replaced with long concrete spans, I believe.
Glen Haug
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[CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:12
AM To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CBQ] Steam
derrick
Lois and Rupert:
I've already covered the 1382 (though I didn't receive my copy of that
message until just minutes ago), and here's my response to Louis's second
point: The derrick in the photo does indeed appear to be a bridge
derrick, and here's what it was doing at Princeton in 1899:
CB&Q Walnut Creek Bridge
Replacement, Princeton, Ill., 7-18-1899, Knox College Special Collections
& Archives
Hol
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<CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:46
AM To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CBQ] Steam
derrick
July 7, 2017
Rupert - This is a very interesting image on two counts. First, 1382 is
not a Class G-1 0-6-0. It is a Class E-1 0-4-0, even though there was a
Class G-1 No. 1382. Some time ago, we had a thread on Class E-1
0-4-0's in which, if memory serves me right, Hol noted that not all E-1's were
ID'd in the Corbin Book roster. Within the Corbin Book roster, there is a
1381 constructed at the Aurora Shops in 1880, but no 1382 is shown. The
1381 is almost certainly a roundhouse mate of 1382. I would speculate that
when 1382 was retired, then that number was transferred to the Class G-1
0-6-0, or if 1382 was still in service it was given another number. A little
confusing, yes!
Second, the derrick with the tall peaked roof is almost certainly a
bridge crane used to lift and set steel bridge spans. From the boom
support shown, it could've also been rigged as a pile driver or steam shovel
(talk about a multi-purpose design). But, it was not a wrecking
derrick for use in cleaning-up derailments. The tall peaked roof would
indicate this was an "old" machine, even for its time. This image would
have to date to the line relocation in and around Princeton, IL, in
the late 1890s or early 1900s. Lastly, the auxiliary tender for water was
probably being shared by both the derrick and 0-4-0. Thanks for sharing -
Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 7/5/2017 11:15:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
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