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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 14:48:54 -0400 (EDT)
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Thread-topic: Another excellent talk tonight by Leo
Thanks Leo. Clears things up. The bike path must switch from one ROW to the 
other somewhere along Blackberry Creek where there are curves (probably nearer 
Rt 56 than to Bliss Rd, before the trail crosses the creek?)

----- Original Message -----
From: "qutlx1@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 12:52:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Another excellent talk tonight by Leo

Doug,

I'll answer you on this group and try to keep the Q involved in the answer. 

The streetcar ran in Plum St. The CADK then crossed the Q as described earlier 
and headed west. It ran almost exactly through the middle of Bliss woods. Made 
a curve near the west side of the woods, crossed KEDEKA road and Blackberry 
creek just west of the end of the Q Gravel spur.

The Milw. Caught the very SE edge of Bliss Woods on the east side of Blackberry 
creek.
The angled driveway of the church at 47 and Bliss is the Milw ROW. This line 
then crossed the Q spur alongside 47 and headed NW toward the huge metropolis 
of Troxel on the county line road.

The Gilman trail switches from the MILW R.O.W. to the CADK  in between Rte 30 
and Bliss Rd

Leo

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 10:47 AM, dhartman@mchsi.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Leo. The streetcar ran along Illinois Ave? At Bliss Woods, then, there 
> were two trackages, streetcar and Milwaukee? But the bike path was the 
> Milwaukee? Or part of each?
> 
> Doug
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "qutlx1@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:21:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Another excellent talk tonight by Leo
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Your mother was talking about the Chicago,Aurora and De Kalb interurban. It 
> operated on Aurora street car tracks from downtown to just across the Qs W. 
> Batavia branch. This was later part of the steel yard at Barber Greene. There 
> was an interchange track with the Q at that location. From there it ran 
> straight west to and through Bliss woods. Exited the woods near the Q Gravel 
> spur, crossed what became 
> rate. 47 and then paralleled Harper road to Kaneville, from there it ran NW 
> to Maple Park, then paralleled the CNW to De Kalb. The line only lasted from 
> approx 1910-1921. Henry Ford killed it and many others. I have quite a 
> collection of maps,photos,etc on the line and will someday write an article 
> on it.
> 
> Leo
> 
> > On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:55 AM, dhartman@mchsi.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, a great presentation by Leo. My question about the bike path (along 
> > Galena, through Bliss Woods to WCC) really surprised me, having thought I 
> > knew a lot about Aurora and the Q. 
> > 
> > I had no idea the Milwaukee came into Aurora. I was surprised also that 
> > line didn't connect to theirs south from Seward. I had no idea the 
> > Milwaukee had so much going on in Kane / DeKalb Counties. The interchange 
> > at Terry makes sense given how close the path is to the C&I there.
> > 
> > A follow-up question: my mother always talked about taking a "streetcar" 
> > from Aurora out to Bliss Woods. Likely in the early 1920's. Would this have 
> > been on the Milwaukee, or is there yet another line west?
> > 
> > Great stories about the roundhouse hostling. I remember the E on Broadway 
> > (early 60's, right?) Was one of the "run throughs" at the current 
> > roundhouse? I imagine the investigation to "ascertain the facts" was 
> > interesting....
> > 
> > Doug
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "STEVEN HOLDING sholding@sbcglobal.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> > To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 8:11:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CBQ] Another excellent talk tonight by Leo [1 Attachment]
> > 
> > JonI would say the sheep and feeder cattle would come in from the west in 
> > the fall to be fed on the stalk fields for spring markets.The fall was 
> > always the busy time at the Montgomery Stockyard. There was a sheep feeder 
> > operation at them at least thru the fall of '69 when I went off to the 
> > service. When I worked at Aurora Tower in the fall of '73 I had a train 
> > come in off the C&I that was too long to fit and set two loads of calves on 
> > the Sheep Yard Lead so I had them set them on a depot track at the east end 
> > of the plant and then when the switch engine came up from the Hill Yard he 
> > just ran in on them and out the west end to the stock yard.Attached is 
> > tower board from Aurora the Hill Yard was off the bottom left east of the 
> > depot. The stock yard lead was the middle track on the right with the top 
> > two the Main Line from Galesburg with the two bottom tracks the C&I Siding 
> > then Main and the middle track of the five the stock yard lead.If any one 
> > is out and abou t I will be giving my revised Train Dispatcher talk at the 
> > Savannah(Ga.) RPM April Fools DaySteve in SC
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:05 PM, "jon_habegger@sbcglobal.net [CBQ]" 
> > <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you Leo for a great talk this evening (March 23rd) at Waubonsee's 
> > downtown Aurora campus. My wife, our neighbor, and I enjoyed the evening. 
> > 
> > Our neighbor enjoyed hearing about Aurora back in the 30s and 40s. She has 
> > told us stories about her father driving sheep from the Burlington siding 
> > in Big Rock, Illinois to their farm about 2 miles away. When asked if their 
> > sheep came from Montgomery, she told us she was not sure and wished she had 
> > asked questions back then.
> > 
> > She also has told us of going trackside in Big Rock to watch the new Zephyr 
> > come through with her elementary school class. Obviously this must have 
> > been the Twin Cities Zephyr. 
> > 
> > This was a very enjoyable evening.
> > Jon Habegger
> > 
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