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Hol, Thank you for the information and photos confirming Rupert's details. This is a big help in placing decals on my outside-braced box cars. Keith Erhart On Saturday, February 4, 2017 9:33 AM, "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Havelock builder's photos of the first car with the Everywhere West slogan and the last group without it, the latter built in 1936, the former in 1937. I would agree with Rupert that the XM-30s and XM-31s probably had Everywhere West on both sides, primarily
because the lettering standard once Way of the Zephyrs was added to the mix called for that slogan to appear on the left side of the car (meaning the B or brakewheel end was to the right), and the builder's photo of 26000 shows that side, with Everywhere West
stenciled. But -- and there's always a "but" -- note that the 1944 builder's photo of Pullman green, freight stenciled XM-32 express car 8200 shows the Everywhere West slogan on the car's right side.
Hol
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Rupert & Maureen' gamlenz@ihug.co.nz [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 1:42 AM To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CBQ] Date of Origin for Everywhere West and Way of the Zephyrs Keith
The only photos I have of XM-30 and XM-31’s (which were built 1937 onwards) show them with an Everywhere West slogan on the left side (but I haven’t found a photo of the other side). This is not the diagonal style used on the XM-32’s, which were built from 1940 onwards, but a more horizontal design. Given their construction date, it seems unlikely that the “horizontal” slogans would have been added during a repaint prior to the diagonal style being adopted. In Data Sheet on XM-25 / XM-26 cars, there are photos of both the left and right sides of cars with diagonal EW slogans, with a comment that they were repainted in the post-1937 style. Based on this, I think the XM-30’s would have been the first to carry the EW slogan (possibly on both sides) and the XM-32 the first to sport the two slogans. Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:53 a.m. To: CB&Q Group Subject: [CBQ] Date of Origin for Everywhere West and Way of the Zephyrs Can someone tell me when the Burlington started using the Everywhere West and Way of the Zephyrs slogans
on their freight cars? Once they were both adopted, did they always use Everywhere West on one side and Way of the Zephyrs on the other? Thank you.
Keith Erhart
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