Re: REPLY - [CBQ] Commuter push-pull

["Michael Woodruff mwoodruff54@gmail.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

The original C&NW gallery cars came from St. Louis Car in 1955, but none of these were cab cars.

SP had a large group of gallery cars built by AC&F but none of these were cab cars, either.

msw

largofl

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 7:29 PM, 'Charlie Vlk' cvlk@comcast.net [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

The CB&Q actually pioneered the concept in a way…..

…..back in the early gas electric era some mechanical department guy reasoned that since a motor could be controlled from either end of the car electrically, it might be possible to do so from the ends of a train.   Temporary jumpers were cabled through the aisles of a number of commuter coaches from one gas electric to one on the other end of the consist….and successfully controlled the power unit from either end.

Somebody in the society has photos of the experiment or possibly it was a trade journal article.

I don’t know if The Pullman Company actually had patents on “Cab Cars”….and if I recall correctly not all the C&NW cars came from Pullman….I think they had some St.Louis-built cars as well although the vast majority of their bilevels did come from Pullman.

Charlie Vlk

 

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 12:00 AM
To: mactach@sbcglobal.net; CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: REPLY - [CBQ] Commuter push-pull

 

 

 

 

It was George Green, pres & chair, of

The Pullman Co who developed the

pull-push concept for The CNW.

 

They gave him free locomotives along

track time and crews to test and refine

the idea. The other major factor was

The CNW buying all of their galley cars,

including inter-city services in Wiscon-

sin and The UP, from P-S. Further, it

was eazy for The MILW and ROCK IS-

LAND to sign because of P-S supply-

ing their galley cars.

 

George was a very clever and shred ME while be a sharp mgr.

 

Always enjoyed visiting w/him long into

his retirement. He helped put together

Freight Car America from remains of

P-S.

 

Fyi, Pat

 

 

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From: "mactach@sbcglobal.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>

Date: 4/21/2016 7:54 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [CBQ] Re: Commuter push-pull

 

 

I know this thread is 4 years old but how come the Burlington which was ahead of the other RRD's in their modernization of their commuter lines have push-pull service till later on?

 

C&NW and MD had that as soon as they modernized their fleet.

 

 

Also how did those green engine ended up remaining till the early 90's?

 

Must have been confusing to younger people who weren't around when the Burlington and the other lines were privately owned.

 

 

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