Re: [CBQ] O-5s With M-4 Tenders

["LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

November 6, 2015

 

Nolen/Ken - I, too, was a little surprised by the very close dimensions and capacities comparing the O-5 and M-4 tenders. Just from appearances, I would've thought the M-4 tender was larger all-around, but it wasn't. As they say, appearances can be deceiving.... So, I'll venture that the proposed but never built later series of O-5s would've kept their original style tenders with the exception of being "stretched" by several feet for greater water capacity. Of course, turntable lengths would've been a limiting factor. As Ken's image gets spread, may be others will note the lack of ash pans. Guess you could then say 5662 was a "hybrid" that burned both coal and oil with a big pull lever in the cab for the fireman to switch from one fuel to the other.... Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL   

 

In a message dated 11/5/2015 8:41:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

Ken,

 

It never occurred to me that there wasn't all that much difference in tender capacities between O-5's and M-4's.  But then I've never had occasion or reason to ponder it.  I will say that your Photo-Shopped version sure is a nice looking locomotive.  It is an especially nice touch that you even gave it a totally bogus number.  Ought to confuse guys that are into that sort of thing for some time to come as the photo gets around. 

 

Nolen Null

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:52 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] O-5s With M-4 Tenders

 

 

November 5, 2015

 

Ken - WOW.... That's fascinating! An O-5's tender held 18,000 gallons of water and a M-4's held 21,500 gallons, so 5662 would've been able to skip some water plug stops. Also, I guess West Burlington could've built-up the coal bunker sides to increase the tonnage beyond the 27 tons you mention. A very HANDSOME looking locomotive with long range tender, a lot better than what I would've thought. Thanks for your PhotoShop magic! Now, wonder what a Southern Railway heavy USRA pacific would've looked like as a Q locomotive..... Best Regards - Louis  

 

In a message dated 11/5/2015 3:53:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

Louis,

 

Here is your what if of an O-5 with an M-4 tender. 

 

Looking at the folios for the two the M-4 is 5 inches longer and 3 inches shorter in height. The O-5 caries 27 ton of coal and the M-4 caries 24 ton of coal, so I am not sure it would have saved stops.

 

Ken Martin

 

 

 

On Nov 4, 2015, at 1:13 PM, LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ] wrote:

November 4, 2015

 

Charlie and All - There was a recent post about a proposed third set of never constructed Class O-5 4-8-4 types that would've been equipped with long range tenders similar to those on Class M-4 2-10-4 type locomotives. Can someone in this Group who is proficient with PhotoShop try and take some builders photos or other broadside photos of each class and see what an O-5 with an M-4 tender might've looked like. Sounds interesting.... Certainly would've cut out the need to stop for coal and water other than at division points thus increasing what today's railroaders call "velocity ." Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL

 

     

 

 

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