November 3, 2015
All - Charlie Able was a friend and colleague of my Dad who was
Chicago Div. Supt. in the early 1960s. Dad thought highly of Mr. Able as I
recall. Dad saved a lot of Q paper memorabilia, but not wheel reports. Best
Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 11/1/2015 8:16:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Blocking to and from the Chicago and the
Twin Cities was not very sophisticated until the BN merger. I don't know
if there even was a CBQ block on GN82. If not, it was GN Union Yard's
job to make up a delivery to the Q at Dayton's Bluff and the Bluff would sort
out the Chicago's from the Eolas, IHB's (usually Perishables for NYC/PC),
Galesburg, La Crosse, Savanna and local cars. Empty CBQ ownership cars
not assigned to a shipper (common cars like plain box, gons, hoppers, etc.)
were handled by a local car distributor. Empty assigned cars were
returned to their location by, hopefully, using a non-revenue
waybill. A Q97 from Cicero in this time frame was blocked: 1. GN,
2. NP, 3. All others, with loads having preference. Dayton's Bluff
ran a transfer off of 97 to the GN, another to the NP, and the rest were
further sorted the other deliveries such as the Minnesota
Transfer. Q97's hot move was to GN97 followed by the NP's to Northtown
for NP 601 or 603 GN82's hot move was to Q82. I do not think Q and
GN/NP road power ran through although I think I heard that Q97s road power was
used on the 97 GN transfer. There were other trains to/from
Dayton's Bluff including 80, 81, 83 88. If I remember correctly there
were additional interchange transfers to both the GN and NP. Cicero
would switch inbound 82 to make the proper interchange or local switch.
Charlie Able told me one time when he was a trainmaster at
Cicero they ran an extra train to the Bluff with over 100 mty 40ft
box cars in two blocks (GN and NP sorted by ownership, that's almost like
switching by car color :>)) via Mendota and Denrock with one SD24. I
know that this is pretty general and might be a little off but this almost 50
years ago. The thing that amazes me now that all of this was done with
paper and pencil and it worked. That's because of a bunch of good people
working together.
On Sunday, November 1, 2015 12:19 PM,
"Bill Scott wscott@optonline.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
I was looking at the wheel report from GN train 82, April 19, 1968, and
wondered, why weren’t the cars bound for the same destination all grouped
together? For example, there were a dozen cars bound for Chicago, but
only a few pairs can be found, and never more than pair together. Was it
the receiving yard’s problem to sort the cars, and the sending yard didn’t
bother to do that all? So, I guess my question is, how were outbound
train composed? Randomly, or was there a method to their apparent
randomness?
Bill Scott
Does anyone have
any late 60's CB&Q wheel reports for trains between Chicago and
Savanna / Mpls / St. Paul? and vice versa? I have a few from Galesburg to
Savanna but not across the C&I.
Tom Mack
Cincinnati,
OH
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