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Re: [CBQ] Friction Bearing Trucks

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Friction Bearing Trucks
From: "LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 15:59:08 -0400
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October 5, 2015
 
Leo - No, I haven't heard your "Pielet and dynamite" story. Please share. Rubber lined tank cars were such a nuisance to cut-up that we only accepted them at no value and still they rolled into the yard. We cut them in the same manner as we cut the oil/asphalt contaminated tank cars (that is to say, we did not "remove" the rubber lining at least in the sense you think it would be removed today). Remember, this was Scrapping 101 back before the EPA took all the fun out of cutting-up railroad equipment. Also share how the shops way back then got the rubber lining out of tank cars. Best Regards - Louis   
 
In a message dated 10/5/2015 2:38:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:


Louis,

I'm pretty sure I know how they were cut.

I have told the Pielet story about dynamite and riveted tanks ?

Or how shops used to remove interior rubber linings ?

Leo

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On Oct 5, 2015, at 2:12 PM, "LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

October 5, 2015
 
Leo - Thanks! In the scrap business, you always made your money on the BUY, never the sell.....  But, it was always impressed upon me as a young and very green scrap buyer at the time that HONEST weights were the only way business was to be conducted. Can't say the same for some our competitors we fought like cats and dogs with over tonnage. I bought a lot of equipment that really should've gone to a museum instead. One passenger car that still sticks in my mind was a small L&N steel sheathed wood "Jim Crow" branch line coach last used in MOW service that had kept its divided passenger sections and leaded glass windows in the upper roof. I also bought many ancient riveted tank cars, most of which, as I recall, were 50 years or older when we scrapped them in the early 1970s. How we cut-up the ones that arrived with oil or asphalt residue still remaining in them is another story for another thread...  Best Regards - Louis    
 
In a message dated 10/5/2015 1:27:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:


Louis,

Ah it's so nice when someone uses the same language,gross tons! Thanks to both you and John.

In BRHS Bulletin #7 I just found a drawing for an XM32,50 ton box with truck set weights(including wheels) at 15,200. So Louis your number is dead on. You were being fair to both car owner and your employer 


Leo

On Oct 5, 2015, at 1:09 PM, LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

October 5, 2015
 
Leo - I recall that a 50 ton capacity friction bearing truck weighed approximately five gross tons, 70 ton capacity would've been a little heavier. Each wheel set was in the range of a thousand pounds. Anyway, that's what we calculated the purchase weights as when bidding for scrap. Best Regards - Louis 
 
In a message dated 10/5/2015 12:58:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
This is actually a business question but thought someone in the group would have access or knowledge as I can't,find it in my messy collection.


What was the typical weight of a friction bearing 50 and/or 70 ton truck set ? Say from 30s or 40s up to the end when outlawed in early 70s from new cars.

Leo Phillipp

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