Dave,
That's what the recoup was, In house damaged stuff,dropped,etc. when a case gets dropped probably 70-80% of the boxes are just fine but no longer in the case. I think General Mills came up with the $2/bag recoup so as to avoid pilferage that might have went on at other customers plants. And just for clarification, this was back in the paper bag days and rest assured a box or two,three were stacked over and above the top edge of the bag. Quite a balancing act getting on the way car or GP-7 !
I don't recall any switching crew pilferage at West Chicago. For $2 you had all the product you needed. If you were on the job regular you could go into the resale business. See Ed De Rouins book on the Pennsy in Chicago and The Cambells soup plant !
Ps- same stuff goes on today at all kinds of warehouses but it's with trucks.
Leo
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the scratch and dent stuff to which i refer was damaged in the warehouse by gm emplyees via fork lifts etc. they in turn had to rid themselves of such evidence. rails hardly ever refused free stuff.
And the Freight Claim Agent PAID AND PAID AND PAID for all that stuff. &nb
sp;There was Fred Kilker...Val Lingren, Les Seahausen and Lloyd Hosins (?) In case you guys don't know these were all CB&Q Freight Claim Agents all the way back to the 1930's through the BN Merger.....I knew all these guys and we knew, pretty much what happened to lots of stuff that didn't get turned back to the railroad to be sold as salvage.
But guess who got blamed for the high freight claim bill which got higher every year. We Freight Claim agents always said...."Don't blame us we're just the undertaker"..we didn't cause the death.
Pete -----Original Message----- From: David Weber dave@cimmaronde
sign.com [CBQ] < CBQ@yahoogroups.com> To: CBQ < CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 3:44 pm Subject: Re: [CBQ] General Mills remember the scratch and dent days when shoe would return to eola with the nose of the geep full of ???
Bob,
I don't want to say too much as it will diminish the future article. First off let me say I don't have my notes or the article in front of me. General Mills bought the plant from Zenith (I think) around
1957 and started remodeling what became known as the " old wore house( warehouse), that gives you some inclination what was most often on the minds,of trains crews and the subject of talk on an ongoing basis on most jobs ! The plant expanded multiple times over the years.
Primarily the plant produces cereals( Cheerios,etc) and hamburger helper,etc. how do I know ? You'll need to read the article when published. It involves the recoup and $2 a bag.
Leo
A question for Leo or Gerald Edgar. Was looking at the article on the West Chicago branch in an old PM issue. General Mills was a large, diversified company, and I wondered what they made at the W. Chicago plant (loads in and out), and when the plant began operation. Thanks!
Bob Herrick
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