RE: [CBQ] Gas Electric Photo ID Help

["Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

The car in question is not the 3667, as I have two photos of it (admittedly from the other side), and where the car at Canton has the two forward windows of the coach section blanked out, the 3667 has every other coach window blanked, making a very distinctive configuration.  In the image Chuck posted the car wears faded mineral red paint, and while there are indications (on the roof at the front end) this this paint might have been applied after the car was placed in building service at Canton (if in fact that's where the photo was taken), there are more indications (especially on the roof ventilators above the coach section) that the mineral red dates to the Q era.  Several of these converted PMCs were painted mineral red (I have a slide of 3651 in red) when their assignment called for their use primarily as a waycar.  In later years, nearly all of them were used primarily as waycars, and none of them were repainted after their conversion into "trailers" at Havelock.  Bear in mind that a good many combines used primarily as waycars were painted mineral red, including a number of the steel-sheathed 3530 series cars and many of the older wooden cars.  And of course all the 3900 series CW class cars were mineral red.  The fact that the car was still on trucks in 1980 indicates to me that it was one of the three cars that were still around when BN was formed in 1970, and BN used mineral red for company service equipment, so the car could have been painted this way in the BN era and faded to the extent shown in the photo by 1980.  I just dug out the diagram sheets for these cars, and the window and door configuration perfectly matches the 3659, which was converted in 1952 from the 9843.

 

Hol

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To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 17:17:45 +1300
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Gas Electric Photo ID Help

 

Chuck

Based on the window configuration, it could have been 9842, 9844 or 9846-9849.

However only three were converted to trailers -
9842 converted to 3658, scrapped Alliance April 1960 (sounds rather terminal)
9846 converted to 3667 sold to NW Metals

9847 converted to 2726 dismantled Eola September 1964

The trailer appears to have retained its RPO door which eliminates 2726 - passenger/baggage only.

I notice that it has retained its trucks so maybe 9846 is the most likely.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

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From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 10 January 2015 04:37
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CBQ] Gas Electric Photo ID Help

 

I've posted a photo of a former gas-electric converted to a baggage trailer.  It was scanned from a slide by Ed DeRouin and had minimal information (Canton D. B. Trailer, Kodak date stamped SEPT 80).  I would like to identfy the location and car number.  Any help would be appreciated, thanks.  The photo is at this address:

http://chuckzeiler.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4082267

 

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Posted by: Hol Wagner <holpennywagner@msn.com>

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