RE: [CBQ] Burlington Limited

["'Charlie Vlk' cvlk@comcast.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

Hol-

I think I can make out “XX4” on the end side of the car under “CB&Q” which would make it the Wisconsin #304.

Great shot.

Thanks,

Charlie

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 2:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Burlington Limited [1 Attachment]

 

 

Here's the train with either the' Wisconsin' or 'Minnesota' on the rear.
 
Hol
 

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To: cvlk@comcast.net; CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:30:50 -0600
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Burlington Limited

 

BTW, unless it is a different car with the same window arrangement and exact roof details, the “Wisconsin” was recorded as being set on  the ground between North Aurora and Batavia in a A.W. Johnson photo taken 9-5-36.  It had had the arched upper sash of the paired windows replaced with squared-off ones.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: Charlie Vlk [mailto:cvlk@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:22 PM
To: 'CBQ@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Burlington Limited

 

Leo-

Unless there was another car with the same name (possible) the “Wisconsin” was an open-end observation car which would have to have been run out to a wye or on a turntable to “properly” tack on to the inbound train.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:07 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Burlington Limited

 

 

Most likely handled in a similar manner to the diner  at Oregon,IL. At Oregon there was a little short track between the main and the Mt Morris main, just a little west of the depot that was called the dining car trk. (It was just long enough to hold a dining car)between the westbound evening movement and the eastbound morning move.

 

At Rochelle this probably took place on the Kennedy track which was directly opposite the depot off of main track 2. 


Leo Phillipp

On Dec 1, 2014, at 4:52 PM, "'Charlie Vlk' cvlk@comcast.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Rupert-

The Wisconsin was an observation car so it would interesting to see how it was handled at Rochelle.

Charlie

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:22 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CBQ] Burlington Limited

 

 

Charlie

According to Locomotive Engineer 1897 volume 10, ‘it is a train of six of the handsomest passenger cars ever placed in commission’ – combined baggage/buffet/smoking car, chair car, compartment car, standard sleeping car and a dining car, but no names shown

The Railroad Car Journal volume 6 of September 1897 also has a description of the train, but only shows the five names and functions for one of the trains – St Paul (composite car), Parthenon (straight sleeper), Apollo (compartment car), Alma (chair car) and Winona (day coach). 

Durbin’s notes that the diner (café-parlor Wisconsin) only operated between Chicago and Rochelle, serving dinner in the evening westbound, and breakfast in the morning on the return to Chicago, so there were just five cars in each train and one shared diner.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

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