Re: [CBQ] Re: CB&Q Car Numbers & Location

["cbqrr17@comcast.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

Bill, James, and Charlie,  The following references show how the vestibule and non vestibule  cars ends were lettered by the CBQ.  The Passenger Car Library, Vol 1, CB&Q, p.147, p.187;  Burlington Route Passenger Trains, Vol 2, Vista Domes and Slumbercoaches, p. 92, Burlington Route Passenger Trains, Vol 3, Passenger Train Problem Impacts the "Q", p. 53; Burlington Zephyrs Photo Archive, p.87;  Burlington Route, Through Passenger Service in Color, p.74, p.75;  Burlington Northern, 1972 Annual, p.45;  Burlington Route Streamlined Observation Cars, Burlington Signature Cars, p.80 and back cover.  I hope these references answer some of the questions presented.   Jules Johnson  Wheat Ridge, Co.

From: "'Charlie Vlk' cvlk@comcast.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:59:16 AM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: CB&Q Car Numbers & Location

 

Bill and James-

 

The Conductor Lists show Car Names, so I would guess that the terminal switchers and maintenance people used them as well.   The car numbers only appeared on the interior bulkhead and end doors, with perhaps some small maintenance stenciling on trucks and underbody components, so car numbers for named cars were not “intuitively obvious to the casual observer”.  Recall that Pullman cars handled by all railroads did not carry any ID numbers so the that being the case is not a stretch.

 

Charlie Vlk

 

 

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:08 AM
To: CB&Q Group
Subject: [CBQ] Re: CB&Q Car Numbers & Location

 

 

James,

 

I don't think that the car number, such as Silver Lariat 4718, appeared on the outside of the car. Only the car name was displayed on the panel at the lower center below the windows. The only place that the number may have appeared was on the end door of the vestibule as you go from car to car or on the interior vestibule bulkhead, but I am not certain that is was displayed in either of those locations. The only number that appeared on the exterior of the car was the small lighted panel at the vestibule entrance that identified the car's position in the train, such as CZ-18 or CZ-23. The Atlas O scale CZ cars do not have a number on them. I could not find any detailed photos of the cars on line that showed a car number displayed although, there are lists of all of the cars, each with it's own number. I wonder how they kept track of the cars on a given train or for maintenance? Interesting question. I hope someone has a definitive answer.

 

Bill Barber

Gravois Mills, MO

 

On Nov 23, 2014, at 3:23 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

CB&Q Car Numbers & Location

Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:58 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"James Koretsky" james_koretsky

Hi All,

I did a search of the archive of this group, and checked the various 
emails that I have since I've been a member of this group, but haven't 
seen the question asked or answered, but it's possible that I wasn't 
using the correct search terms.

I have a number of books that have photographs and or drawings of CB&Q's 
various passenger cars, and neither the drawings or photographs show the 
placement of the car numbers. So, where on CB&Q's cars used in 
California Zephyr and Denver Zephyr service, where the car numbers 
actually located on the outside of the car?

James

 

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