Pete and Bud are correct. However as a matter of working application (at least
on the Aurora Div) not only did you have to p/u tonnage at the
station,immediately prior to the double, the tonnage of your train out of town
had to be higher than inbound. In other words if you set out more tonnage than
you picked up and your trains actual tonnage went down......Then if you doubled
the hill prior to next station you received only 25 miles.
I know that's not what the agreement said but that's how it was applied. Oregon
was a perfect example. Generally westbound you set out a boat load of mty sand
cars and only picked up 2 or 3 mty paper cars going back north for a net
reduction of tonnage for the run at Oregon/Startford.
Leo
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> On Apr 28, 2014, at 7:53 PM, ralph linroth <wcman8@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Pete, that is correct and is from the April 13, 1949 lapback agreement.
> Under the sub article 'Doubling hills account Excess tonnage" , Paragraph 2
> payment of 100 miles is due when "a crew is required to pick up additional
> tonnage which is in excess of the tonnage that can be moved in their train
> from the point at which picked up, to the next station in a single trip or
> straightaway movement." Galesburg Division crews had claims for picking up
> southbound at Barstow and picking up northbound at W. Quincy. The Barstow
> move soon was reduced to 25 miles after the house track was removed at Warner
> and company officers used the argument that neither Briar Bluff or Warner
> qualified under the definition of a station under this agreement as there was
> no revenue service performed there after the house track was removed. Bud
> Linroth.
>
> From: "Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com" <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Close call 3
>
>
> Seems like in the corners of my memory there was a provision that if you
> picked up at the last station it was worth 100 miles if you doubled and
> something less if you hadn't picked up???
>
> Since we are "dabbling in nostalgia" here anybody qualified to enlighten us
> on this provision in the schedule???? If indeed there was such a provision
> or just a "figment of my imagination and memory" I have recently been
> telling people that "my memory is so good now that I can even remember things
> that never happened"
>
> Pete
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mdecker <mdecker@gwtc.net>
> To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 28, 2014 10:36 am
> Subject: [CBQ] Re: Close call 3
>
>
> But I'll bet there was a 25 mile/time or miles arbitrary for "hill doubling
> account excess tonnage" there :>) There used to be a lot of money in
> doubling your trains out of a mine after you'd ripped a drawbar out trying to
> get them up some of those hills.
>
> Mike
>
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