Leo
Thanks for the explanation. Four resultant questions.
Was there a minimum time or distance factor between stations A and B before
a claim could be made? A return trip between two stations is a bit like the
length of a piece of string. An extra day's pay for perhaps an hour's
activity sounds very generous (assuming that it was actually paid).
Do I gather that this additional payment was made in addition to overtime
(The time engaged in making the lapback may be deducted from their regular
trip when computing overtime.)
Did all the crew have to make the return trip in order to qualify or was it
sufficient for part of the train/crew to make the journey?
Was there a limit to the number of lapbacks that could be claimed in one
period of duty?
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
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From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: Friday, 25 April 2014 1:14 p.m.
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Close Calls 2
Rupert,
I'll quote verbatim from the "schedule". The Rules and rates of pay as
agreed between the Q and operating unions. Keep in mind one needs to be part
lawyer,part local chairman and part company officer to adjudicate a lap back
claim, which is an arbitrary over and above the pay for the run.
P 148 of the 1952 agreement which revised the 1928 agreement reads"1. A crew
that makes a trip from a station to the next station in a forward or reverse
movement for any purpose and returns, will be allowed miles or hours ,
whichever is the greater,with a minimum of 100 miles or 8 hours,in addition
to all other time or mileage which may accrue under the rules for service
performed on their programmed trip. The time engaged in making the lapback
may be deducted from their regular trip when computing overtime.
There you have it. I'm guessing your shaking your head. So here's the
simplified version.
If a crew moves from station A to station B and then returns to A and then
subsequently moves through B on their trip they are entitled to a 100 miles
which equated to a days pay. If the crew moved from A to a point between A
and B then back to A and then back thru the point they were entitled to 25
miles only. Got that ? This was one of the most hotly debated claims at
claims conferences between the local chairman and local division mgmt.
For the night of our story the crew at Steward would have come east thru Lee
and Shabbona and then back to tie onto their train and headed east thru
those stations on the way to Cicero, thus entitled to a 100 mile lap back.
Also as I think about it 85s power came up behind us from Mored thus going
thru Waterman and then back and when they came west again thru Waterman they
earned a 100 mile lap back.
Our crew probably also filed for a 100 mile lap back for going to Shabbona,
then back to near Waterman and then thru Shabbona on the way west. My
experience is we probably got a 25 mile lapback.
Finally, I almost forgot what made this such a close call. About another
mile or so west of our little problem is BX xing with the CNW branch from De
Kalb to points along the Illinois River. If our 40 footer had been dragging
along at all those frogs we would have made a nice pile of cars when the
wheels hung up.
Leo
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