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Re: [CBQ] Close Calls 2

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Close Calls 2
From: Leo <qutlx1@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 20:14:20 -0500
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Rupert,

I'll quote verbatim from the "schedule". The Rules and rates of pay as agreed 
between the Q and operating unions. Keep in mind one needs to be part 
lawyer,part local chairman and part company officer to adjudicate a lap back 
claim, which is an arbitrary over and above the pay for the run.

P 148 of the 1952 agreement which revised the 1928 agreement reads"1. A crew 
that makes a trip from a station to the next station in a forward or reverse 
movement for any purpose and returns, will be allowed miles or hours , 
whichever is the greater,with a minimum of 100 miles or 8 hours,in addition to 
all other time or mileage which may accrue under the rules for service 
performed on their programmed trip. The time engaged in making the lapback may 
be deducted from their regular trip when computing overtime.

There you have it. I'm guessing your shaking your head. So here's the 
simplified version.

If a crew moves from station A to station B and then returns to A and then 
subsequently moves through B on their trip they are entitled to a 100 miles 
which equated to a days pay. If the crew moved from A to a point between A and 
B then back to A and then back thru the point they were entitled to 25 miles 
only. Got that ? This was one of the most hotly debated claims at claims 
conferences between the local chairman and local division mgmt.

For the night of our story the crew at Steward would have come east thru Lee 
and Shabbona and then back to tie onto their train and headed east thru those 
stations on the way to Cicero, thus entitled to a 100 mile lap back.

Also as I think about it 85s power came up behind us from Mored thus going thru 
Waterman and then back and when they came west again thru Waterman they earned 
a 100 mile lap back. 

Our crew probably also filed for a 100 mile lap back for going to Shabbona, 
then back to near Waterman and then thru Shabbona on the way west. My 
experience is we probably got a 25 mile lapback.

Finally, I almost forgot what made this such a close call. About another mile 
or so west of our little problem is BX xing with the CNW branch from De Kalb to 
points along the Illinois River. If our 40 footer had been dragging along at 
all those frogs we would have made a nice pile of cars when the wheels hung up.

Leo

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> On Apr 24, 2014, at 7:06 PM, "Rupert & Maureen" <gamlenz@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> Leo
> 
> Thanks for the tale but I have to ask, what is a "100 mile lap back"?
> 
> Rupert Gamlen
> Auckland NZ
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leo
> Sent: Friday, 25 April 2014 11:33 a.m.
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CBQ] Close Calls 2
> 
> Based on the feed back from close calls 1. I'll give it another go. If I've
> told this one before I apologize.
> 
> By the way road crews didn't get paid extra (arbitraries) like yard jobs for
> rerailing. On the other hand I do believe a number of100 mile lap backs got
> filed from the incident
> 
> Leo
> 
> 
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