RE: [CBQ] RE: What is the second car?

[Hol Wagner <holpennywagner@msn.com>]

Stephen:
 
Even though the coach ran on the rear between Burlington and Chicago, office 
cars were not placed on the rear (except, possibly, between Burlington and 
Chicago) until 1968.  Even the DZ arriving in Denver on the morning of May 10, 
1968, when the Great Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines merger was scheduled 
to be consummated -- until stayed by the U.S. Supreme Court -- carried an 
office car (Burlington or The Round-Up, I don't recall which) up front and the 
unobstructed obs car on the rear.  It was after the summer season in 1968 that 
office cars began to be placed on the rear end.
 
Hol
 
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      Hol, are you sure about 1968?  The DZ carried a coach behind the obs from 
Burlington to Chicago and back from as early as 1965 to the spring of 1967.


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The prohibition lasted until 1968.
 
Hol
 
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Louis




I heard or read somewhere that the policy of "nothing behind the obs car on the 
DZ was removed about 1964.





Pete






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February 25, 2014


 


Brian - This is most likely a special movement with (in order shown) a 
coach for guests, a business car for entertaining/dining/meeting and a 
following 
baggage car for their use. Could possibly be a directors special. Or, another 
possibility, all the equipment shown could be deadheading back somewhere. The 
C&S, FW&D and Q almost never placed business cars or 
other special movement cars on the tail end of Zephyr observation cars as it 
would block the view for the paying passengers. 


 


Louis Zadnichek II


Fairhope, AL


 




In a message dated 2/25/2014 2:32:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
bpehni@gmail.com writes:






  

  
Thanks, guys!

  

  




  
Thanks!

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Brian 
  Ehni



  




  
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Hi Brian,



The second car is a CB&Q Business car in the shadow 
  line paint scheme.



I believe it is car 100



Greg K.