Re: [CBQ] Company Tank Cars

["John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>]

Hol

What made the difference between the "distillate" engines and the "diesel" engines was not the fuel (it is almost exactly the same) but rather the distillate engine had a much lower compression ratio and were thus spark ignited, whereas the diesel engines were and are compression ignited. Mechanical engineers refer to the distillate engines as operating on the "Otto cycle" instead of the "Diesel cycle".

John

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:33 AM, Harold Huber <sarge9@bresnan.net> wrote:

 

All,

Fuel Oil (distillate) was and is still today is used as heating oil, the Glenrock Refinery was a small refinery with not too much capability to make gasoline or even light oils (motor oil) I'm sure in 1933 they were one of the main refiners of fuel oil.  In the refining process Fuel Oil is one of the first products of off the refining process, along with JP4 which was not a big selling item in 1932. I'm sure after recovery of what the Glenrock plant could do the remainder of the petroleum was loaded back on cars and sent down the line to another refinery. I never understood why they did not enlarge the refinery there?  By then the Catalytic Cracking Plant was invented (1927 -1929)and could have been integrated into the refinery.  Actually Sulphur is the first product off in the refinining process, if there is high amounts of sulphur in the oil.  Not at The refinery in Glenrock it is said that the Big Muddy field was a very clean oil (not much sulphur or pariffin)  Now the oil field at Worland had lots of sulphur and thus the sulphur plant in between Worland and Manderson.  Still opperating today.  In my research I have found that Natural Gass was burned away until they found uses for it.  Natural gases tend to have larger amounts of sulpher.   The Big Muddy Field still produces oil today.  My uncle was the manager of the Big Muddy field (Glenrock) at this time, when WWII started my entire family moved to the west coast fro better work oppurtunities. 

Harold Huber 

Ultimate Research

-----Original Message-----
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Rupert & Maureen
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:55 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Company Tank Cars

 

Hol

Any guesses what the distillate (up to 10,000 gallons) would be used for? And still on the subject of renumbering, any idea why tank cars were renumbered out of the revenue service numbering in about 1938?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HOL WAGNER
Sent: Wednesday, 4 December 2013 6:40 a.m.
To: CB&Q Group
Subject: [CBQ] Company Tank Cars

In light of recent discussions about the use of company-owned tank cars in revenue service (which occurred primarily before their renumbering into the 230000 series), here are a couple of bits of correspondence on the topic that I uncovered in the Colorado Railroad Museum library while sorting old records yesterday:
 
Denver, Colo., August 10, 1932
 
Geo. Eckhart, CB&Q, Casper
 
Purchasing Department ordering today from Continental OIl Company one car distillate to be billed C&S Denver, wanted destination ot later than 15th, understand will load at Standard Oil Company, Casper.  Protect with CB&Q car.   K 338.
 
G.B. Hoover
[C&S Supt. Transportation]
 

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