RE: [CBQ] Broadway Limited CB&Q E8's (Most recent run)

["Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>]

You guys don’t mention the scale (BLI/PCM did E units in both HO and N) but since the most recent run that just hit the market is HO….

…..the pilot on the HO E8/9 is separate.  IIRC they did not mold a Enclosed (“passenger”) Pilot with the doors open or removed, so have to package a Open (“freight”) Pilot to allow the use of a coupler for trailing or Elephant style lash ups.  I don’t know if there are any spare pilots available that would work for an open Enclosed pilot; LifeLike would be a candidate but their parts situation is bad.   I-M molds the pilots with the body shell; not sure of how Athearn units are built.

The E7 and E8 pilots should interchange.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jameskoretsky@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:21 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Broadway Limited CB&Q E8's (Most recent run)

 

 

Scott,

Looking at the prior runs of E8's painted in CB&Q, they came with the enclosed pilots too, so perhaps it seems that the E8's had enclosed only. I can't say for sure if these were operable or not, but I assume that they're the same. I don't have any spare parts for an open pilot.

I can't see how these detach, is it a press fit that's glued? I'll take a more thorough look at these tonight.

Is the pilot on an E7 and E8 the same?

James

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott wessely" <noisemaker383@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:24:06 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Broadway Limited CB&Q E8's (Most recent run)

If I remember correctly on my first gen E7 for BLI, it came with two pilots.  And it separated at the sill plate, where it is painted red.

Hope this helps,
SJW

From: Duncan Cameron <d.cameron@sympatico.ca>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Broadway Limited CB&Q E8's (Most recent run)

 

James,
I have one of the first of the E7s they produced at it came with the pilot open and front coupler installed.
I can check whether the pilot was molded as part of the body.
If you can get the pilot off, maybe an E7 one could be swapped in.
Duncan Cameron
 

----- Original Message -----
From: James Koretsky
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:52 PM
Subject: [CBQ] Broadway Limited CB&Q E8's (Most recent run)

 

Hi All,

I received two CB&Q E8's from the latest release of E Units from
Broadway Limited for a customer. The customer asked for me to program
them and change the couplers to Kadee's (If they weren't fitted with
Kadee's from the factory, which they're not by the way), before sending
them on to him.

As I took the first one out of it's box, I noticed that it has the
closed passenger pilot on the front of it and it looks really nice.
Looking behind the pilot, I noticed that the pilot seems to be cast as
part of the body, and that the coupler covers, are molded as part of the
pilot, they don't seem to be operable.

I checked the other unit and it's the same.

There's no way to open them or set these units up for double heading.
They don't even come with a coupler box for the front of the locomotive,
even though the frame mounting point is there.

Is this truly the case, or am I not looking at this correctly? I don't
see anything in the manual or paperwork that comes with them about
opening them up, and I don't see any extra parts in the boxes, so I'm
trying to figure out what I should be doing next for the customer, as he
was planning on double heading these units.

Were previous runs of E8's setup the same way from Broadway? These are
the first units that I've handled in person from Broadway Limited and
the detailing is nice but this is kind of an issue.

Any comments.

James

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