Re: [CBQ] Motor Car Collision

[Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com]

That right Hol...according to the ICC   most every situation...even on the most remote branch line could have been prevented by an "automatic block signal system"

 

There have been at least one...maybe more "critiques" of these investigations by a couple of writers over the years...I have them in my "Favorites" bookmark and most of them are fairly critical of how the ICC handled its stuff.

 

If anyone is interested I can give you the URLs for these.

 

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
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Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 10:53 am
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Motor Car Collision

 

It's my understanding that the Special Collections does indeed have ALL the ICC accident investigation reports from 1912 on and that the real question is how the federal regularotry agency decided which accidents it would investigate and which it would not.  As Pete suggests, some very serious accidents went uninvestigated.  It appears the ICC wanted to investigate and report on accidents that were different in their basic cause from ones it had previously investigated.  It was always looking to make a point with its investigations.  For many years the major point was that the accident could have been avoided if a better block signal system, or even better, an automatic train control system, had been in use.
 
Hol
 

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From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:33:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Motor Car Collision

 

There is nothing about the incident referred to...I have tried over the years to figure  what determines which incidents are listed on the Special Collections list and have "come up dry"...There are some very serious incidents with loss of life not listed and there are some on the list which involved no injuries or loss of life which I would consder "trivial"...Who knows????

 

Pete

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From: Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net>
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Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 10:34 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Motor Car Collision

 

I tried looking at the ICC accident reports and could not find any incident for a motor car as described, even for other roads.  I would of thought it would be there but maybe not all accidents with loss of life are listed

Charlie Vlk

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On Jan 23, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Noel Crawford <georgecrawfordsr@comcast.net> wrote:

 

Thanks Rupert. I am going to have to go through my books and archives. Hope I can find something. At 71yrs I a slowing down a bit and cannot remember where every thing is. LOL
Noel

On 1/23/2013 7:55 PM, Rupert & Maureen wrote:

 

Noel

I maintain a spreadsheet of motor cars (copy on the BRHS website) which includes details of disposals, and there were several cars dismantled at Lincoln during the 50's.  However, none are recorded as having been burnt out.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Noel Crawford

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Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:17 PM

Subject: Re: [CBQ] Motor Car Collision

Hol,
  Do you have any information on the collision of a gas-electric and a truck at the US 81 crossing in McCool Junction, Nebraska in the mid fifties? The truck knocked the gas-electric on it's side and she caught fire and burned. The engineer got out by kicking out the roof hatch. The train was on it's way to Lushton NB on the old KC&O line. I remember seeing the burned out hulk across from the depot in York, NB. Any info would be nice.
Thanks,
George N. Crawford  (Noel)

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