Here
is some more info from Jules Johnson.
Roger Kujawa
Morton, IL.
:
About CBQ trains 11/12 and 5/6. I rode #11(Nebraska Zephyr) many
times
between 1965 and 1967 going to school in Iowa. #11 and #5 were
combined
between Chicago and Galesburg. The consist was: E7/8 or
9s,
baggage-express, Quincy section with a dome coach and flat top coach,
and
the 7 and then 5 unit articulated Nebraska Zephyr (ex Twin Cities
Zephyr)set. At Galesburg, the middle section was switched out and
coupled
to an awaiting single E unit. I'm not sure if and head end
cars were
transferred to the Kansas City Zephyr(#5). The reverse was
preformed for the
eastbound trains. The motive power from the Kansas
City Zephyr was left at
Galesburg, turned around, and made ready for the
night trains, Ak Sar Ben
and American Royal Zephyrs. When any
eastbound train was late beyond a pre
designated time, each train would
continue separately to Chicago. The
Nebraska/Kansas City Zephyrs were
mid-day and early evening arrivals at
Galesburg. The Ak Sar
Ben/American Royal Zephyrs were the night trains and
may have contained
sleepers. I do know that cars from the California Zephyr
were used on
the night trains in pool service. There are some photos of a CZ
dome/obs on
the end of the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr
Looking for info on combined Nebraska
Zephyr-Kansas City Zephyr
>
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>
1a. Looking for info on combined Nebraska Zephyr-Kansas City
Zephyr
> Posted by: "ROGERK" xark@mtco.com
kujawa61550
> Date: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:09 am
((PST))
>
> Hi Karl:
>
> I found out a little more about
the combined trains at Galesburg. This
> was out of a 1969 Q
timetable.
> It looks like #11 the Nebraska Zephyr was combined with #5
the KC Zephyr
> remnant from Chicago to Galesburg. At Galesburg
they were split or a
> small train for Quincy was waiting at the
depot. The reverse was true.
> #12 the eastbound Nebraska Zephyr
arrived Galesburg to be combined with #
> 6. I still haven't confirmed if
the trains were combined or if the
> passengers changed trains and the KC
train was turned and waited in
> Galesburg for the next westbound #11 and
#5.
> Westbound # 11 Nebraska Zephyr arrived Galesburg 1:55 pm and left at
2:05
> pm for Omaha. # 5 left Galesburg at 2:05 pm for
Quincy. There is no #5
> in the Chicago - Galesburg timetable.
>
Eastbound #12 Nebraska Zephyr arrived Galesburg 6:00 pm and left at 6: 30
> pm for Chicago. #6 arrived from Quincy at 6:15 pm. There is
no #6 in the
> Chicago - Galesburg timetable.
> 10 minutes one way
seems a very short time to switch cars on and off
> trains and 30 minutes
the othermay be built in fir a late train.
> Later in the day and into the
morning the following happened.
> It looks like #3 the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr
was combined with #19 the (American
> Royal Zephyr?) from Chicago to
Galesburg. At Galesburg they were split or
> a small train for KC
was waiting at the depot. The reverse was true. #4
> the
eastbound Ak Sar Ben Zephyr arrived Galesburg to be combined with #
> 20. I still haven't confirmed if the trains were combined or it
the
> passengers changed trains and the KC train was turned and waited in
> Galesburg for the next westbound #3 and #19 like above.
>
Westbound # 3 the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr arrived Galesburg 12:30 am and left at
> 12:50 pm for Omaha. # 4 left Galesburg at 1:05 pm for
KC. There is no
> #4 in the Chicago - Galesburg timetable.
>
Eastbound # 4 Ak Sar Ben arrived Galesburg 2:05 am and left at 2:25 am for
> Chicago. #20 arrived from KC at 1:55 am. There is no #20 in
the
> Chicago - Galesburg timetable.
> Here you have 20 and 30
minutes between trains which suggest there might
> have been switching
going on between trains.
>
> Roger Kujawa
> Morton,
IL.
>
>
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "ROGERK"
<xark@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi
all:
>>
>> Can anyone out there give me any info on the
combined Nebraska
>> Zephyr-Kansas City Zephyr. I think they ran
on the same schedule and
>> train from Chicago to Galesburg where
they
>> were split. One section to KC and one section to Lincoln. I
think they
>> were combined to go to Chicago if both trains were on
time.
>>
>> Can anyone give me any more info on the consists
between Chicago and
>> Galesburg? Was there a lot of switching
at Galesburg? How long would
>> they wait for the other section
before running two trains?
>>
>>
>> Here is a link to
the combined train from Chicago to Galesburg.
>>
>>
7.Nebraska Zephyr-Kansas City Zephyr Colossal combined BN passenger
>> train from
>> Chicago to its separation at
Galesburg.
>> 1.Kansas City Zephyr BN Chicago to Kansas
City.
>> 2.Nebraska Zephyr BN Chicago to Lincoln,
Nebraska.
>>
>>
http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/Category:Named_Passenger_Trains
>>
>>
Thanks!
>>
>> Roger Kujawa
>> Morton,
IL.