Re: [CBQ] Re:SP trackage rights

[archie hayden <klinerarch@charter.net>]

Steve,  Who was the old fart from Hannibal?  Tommy OBrian?

On Oct 23, 2012, at 10:43 PM, STEVEN HOLDING wrote:

 

Talking about crews.  We use to have a trainmaster I had worked with at Cicero for years before we got moved to Galesburg and I wound up on the Ottumwa Div. and who should replace Trainmaster Bob Brown at Creston but Al from Cicero.  A few years down the pike and I wound up back on the Main Line(Had to wait for the old fart from Hannibal to retire so I could get my old job back) And the SP starts running over our line.  One of the conductors comes on the radio and I could have sworn it was the Trainmaster Al.  It was but not senior but the son and he sound like his father.  He later followed in his fathers foot steps as a TM for UP.
Steve in SC

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From: ralph linroth <wcman8@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 23, 2012 9:17:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re:SP trackage rights

 

Hello group  I was Galesburg Local chairman in 1991 when the SP won trackage rights from K. C. to Chicago.  Our Brookfield to Galesburg I. D. pool was immediately affected with the loss of several trains especially #55 and 56 the "evergreen" container trains.

All adversely affected employees were provided a guarantee of sorts except a few who had to file the claims and appeal them through the appeals process.  I was working the pool at the time and was the 2nd crew to be removed from the pool.  Three of us had our guarantees settled in the hallway on the day of the arbitration hearing.  Not a large amount of money involved however but a successful conclusion to 2 years of the appeals process.

These trains were operated out of the freight pool Galesburg to Chicago and I don't remember how the pool was handled in this matter.

Bud Linroth

--- On Sat, 10/20/12, James Vivian <jvivian765@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: James Vivian <jvivian765@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CBQ] Re:SP trackage rights
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 20, 2012, 12:42 PM

 

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, William Barber <clipperw@...> wrote:
>
> James,
>
> The trackage rights agreement originally developed with the Southern
Pacific and was inherited through merger by the U.P. I am not certain
when it started, but may have originated as a concession in the BN /
ATSF merger in 1995, although it may predate that point.
>
> Bill Barber
> Gravois Mills, MO
>
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 9:17 PM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> > SP trackage rights
> > Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:59 pm (PDT) . Posted by:"James Vivian"
jvivian765Does anyone know how/where the SP gained access from the west
to run
> > eastward on the Mendota Sub. and when this arrangement came into
being?
> > I know this must have carried over into the UP merger as I have have
> > seen run-through stack trains in the fairly recent past.
>Bill, It has to pre-date the BN/ATSF merger since I have photographed a
few SP trains in the mid 1980's and seen other photos from around then
as well.

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