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RE: [CBQ] Re: Steam Restoration

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From: "Carroll, Ed" <ed.carroll@heartland.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:43:01 +0000
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I have been following this project for a few years as well as a plan to build a brand new diesel style powdered coal fired AC generation system. The limit to that one was the problem of getting enough scrubbing capacity on
board for the combustion residue from the powdered coal. The powdered coal was much cleaner than the last steam engines and the first few generations of diesels, but still not clean enough. The bio-coal is a hydrocarbon rich and very clean alternative to coal and thus the use of bio-coal in a system originally designed for a fairly dirty and incomplete burning of various types of coal or petroleum would prove that the bio-coal fuel and the modifications to use it can make a 70 year old piece of technology compatible with the current clean air laws and the projected new standards.

The technical papers had some math that I had to ask my older son to explain to me. Fortunately he has a love of steam and is a modern technology person and thus sends me the articles he runs across. I was able to read not only some of the technical papers, but the popular versions such as the one or two that the appeared in Scientific American and in another popular science publication.

So I hope they succeed and I think they not only know what they are doing, they have the boiler and steam engineering students and faculty to over see the reconstruction of the locomotive. The budget also appears to have attracted support from a few foundations and the bio-fuels industry that will likely provide not only the starting funds, but also the finishing funds due to the soundness of the research.  I know that proof is in the pudding, but if you have all the ingredients it is likely to be a successful pudding.

Ed


From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [CBQ@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Randy Gordon-Gilmore [randy@prototrains.com]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 7:22 PM
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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Steam Restoration

 

At 05:32 PM 10/1/2012, Art wrote:

>These youngsters do not know "sicem from Cm'here".

>From reading some of their papers, I would dispute that
point. They are drawing on the research that L. D. Porta did in
South America on steam engine efficiency and also on the more recent
5AT project in the UK that also built on Porta's work. I'm eager to
see what they can do.

Randy
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Randy Gordon-Gilmore
http://www.prototrains.com
randy@prototrains.com




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