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Thanks for the insight Chuck.
 
Here's a couple follow up points. On the subject of the guy who worked his job and never laid off. We had an example on the Aurora Div. his initials were DF and he had enough seniority to hold the Congo(by the way never,ever heard it called called anything but the Congo,with nothing added afterward). He worked 363 days a year as the job was 7 days a week.That's not a typo. He would try and mark off for Christmas eve and Christmas day. The crew callers would of course tell him there was no way he could mark off as there were no men available.(One crew caller told me it didnt matter whether there was anyone available on the list or not as this guy didnt help the list all year long).
 
As to the guys who would "rat out" a habitual/chronical rule violator I certainly understand that and it did indeed happen as a matter of self preservation. Here's a real life story of the bad old days of the 70's.
 
We went to work one night on an extra North of something or another out of Cicero. I was the head brakeman and there was a student engineer. After bringing the power from the house and coupling on to the train in departure yard I was "advised" to ride the second unit so "everyone could stretch out". The trip was uneventful until we reached the west end of Chadwick where a 10MPH slow was in force due to a recent derailment of an ore train. I also happened to be working when the ore train went off the bridge and recall so clearly the Condr on the train getting on the radio to advise the DS that things were all messed up(not the exact term he used) with cars in the creek, hanging off the bridge,etc. This particular Condr just passed on to his eternal resting place in the last couple weeks and some of us have been exchanging stories(that are not fit for this yahoo site).
 
So we are going over the east switch at Chadwick at track speed and in the second unit I am wondering what the xxxx the engineer is thinking. As I get out of my seat and am reaching for the "guzzler" the air goes into emergency. We manage to get part of the train over the derailment site w/o going on the ground. The Con advises (before being asked) that yes he did that. Once stopped I walk up to the lead unit............
 
Rule G was clearly not being observed in either a liquid or vapor form. While my first inclination was to call the waycar and set out the engine crew on the spot, I decided to wait until Savanna. After conferring with the Con the incident was written off. Not too much later the engineer was pulled for rule G and if I remember correctly never "got back". Did someone visit w/mgmt. ? If so it wasnt me.
 
Leo Phillipp


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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Fwd: Fire Insurance Efficiency tests
From: "Chuck Hatler" <gnhistory07@live.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:46:42 -0500
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Doug and All,
 
Random Tests or Not Random Tests?
 
This is from the perspective of somebody who was inside an office, involved with crews on a daily basis (crew planner, aka the ‘screw planner’).  We also talked to lots of field managers daily, and very occasionally went out with train masters testing (‘fun’ the first time, a pain in the butt after that because it was on our ‘days off’).
 
Most testing was random, unless someone had come to the attention of the officials, then, yes, they were observing you.  Not to say they were gunning for you, unless you had developed a reputation for something, ie, the cheating fare collector or the drinking crew.
 
And no matter how tight you folks were with your brother train and engine men, if you were consistently a bad boy, somebody was going to turn you in, for their safety, or just because your actions had interfered with their life once too often. 
 
When I met people out in the field, they would ask if I had a little black book?  Nope, did not have a list, either.  However, there were certain names that kept coming up, when things would go wrong, or not according to plan.  Lo and behold, in talking to the managers in the field, and even to other crews, those same names kept coming up in conversations.   In other words, if you were a bad boy, and you were obstinate, or liked to break knuckles to show how you ran things, the dispatchers knew who you were, the trainmasters knew who you were, the crew planners eventually knew who you were, and all of your fellow railroaders knew who you were, and in really bad cases, your brothers would even go so far as to drop a dime to the FRA so they knew who you were.  Imagine having p o’ed that many people before you even got out of bed!
 
The opposite of that was a fellow that called me one morning when I was a crew caller.  He needed to lay off for his vacation, from a yard job.  I did not recognize his name.  I had never heard his voice before (and when you are only dealing with people over the phone, you learn to remember and recognize voices before you even hear the person’s name, as soon as they ‘hello,’).  I had to go into the system to look him up.  There on the screen was what I needed to know, and I did lay him off, and wish him happy vacation. 
 
This fellow never laid off sick, never had discipline issues, never missed a call, he just showed up 50 weeks out of the year, no  matter how cold or hot, snowing, blowing, burning hot, no matter how the fish were biting or the deer were calling, took his two weeks vacation, and then came back and started all over.  And, yes, he was an older head.  I don’t think he was number one on the seniority roster, but he did hold a daylight Monday-Friday switch engine job. 
 
Chuck Hatler
KC MO
 
 


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