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Leo is spot on. Circa 70's, a train crew would be complete idiots not to have it. With all the ways at their disposal, if they wanted to nail someone they did. It was more about blame than any real safety analysis "ascertaining facts". Have things changed?
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:16:47 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: [CBQ] Fire Insurance

 

Let me try and shed some insider details. We never called it fire insurance, it was job insurance. You could get it through BRCF or the UTU.
 
What did it insure ? Working on any RR,not just the Q,was pretty much like working in a military organisation except there were no guns. There were mutliple rule books, the Consolidate Code,Signals & Indications rules,Safety Rules,Air Brake and Train Handling rules,rules pertaining to current timetable and special instructions and current Supt and trainmasters bulletins. If you screwed up and put something on the ground one of these rules would apply. How did I just come up with that long list.........Doug Hartman just emailed a couple days ago the Supts letter to him,myself and a couple dozens others that we were to prepare ourselves for the exam to Condr promotion in 1976.
 
If you had any kind of a derailment,accident,incident,etc you would receive a letter asking you to attend an investigation to "determine your responsibility......................." concerning the incident. The end result,if found guilty of one of the 700 plus rules was time off. The job insurance replace a portion of your wages while you sat home for the prescribed time off before returning to work.
 
Was there any other industry with this type of penalty system ?
 
Leo Phillipp
Former Brakeman,Condr,and local Greiver........yes I have been to a few investigations.
 
 



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