Group,
Shots of this line and other CB&Q lines in northern Missouri are exactly what I
am still looking for to finish the photo-gathering stage of my upcoming "Rails
Around Missouri" book.
John Swearingen sent me a flash drive with some fabulous shots of the
Laclede-Unionville branch with both Q and BN-painted geeps, and they were
definitely print-worthy, but unfortunately my book is all-color, so I was not
able to use them.
With the way the book is being arranged geographically, I am at a point where I
can't move on until I either find more CB&Q/BN shots from northern MO or decide
they aren't to be found and do without. Obviously I'm hoping for the former,
not the latter.
If you have shots you are willing to share, let me know. We'll make the
arrangements offline.
Thanks,
Mike Kelly 314 809-9310, atsf1014me@yahoo.com<mailto:atsf1014me@yahoo.com>
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "smokyjoe66" <js08ws62@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> A recent message about the Laclede-Carrollton branch line in North Missouri
> inquired: " Some maps show junction to Carrollton Branch being at Needles
> rather than
> LaClede...was it moved over time(e.g. when K.C. Cut-off was built), and is
> branch still intact, in use?"
>
> After the KC Cutoff was built, it became the Q's Brookfield-Kansas City
> mainline, forsaking the old route west to Cameron, Missouri and then going
> south. The KC cutoff began going south at Needles, 2 miles west of Brookfield
> and well short of entering Laclede. Since this became the new mainline, it
> would be more accurate to say that the Carrollton branch junction was at
> Cottor, which was a long siding along the new Brookfield-Kansas City cutoff.
> The switch for the Carrollton branch came off of this siding.
>
> The Carrollton branch is no longer intact, nor in use. The rails are no
> longer there?.. And I am told the long siding at Cottor is no longer there
> either. So, it may well be that neither Forker nor Cottor is listed on
> current BNSF timetables.
>
> I have no knowledge whether there was ever an interchange between the Q and
> the Wabash or AT & SF at Carrollton. I have word from a retired Q engineer
> who used to work steam locomotives on the Carrollton branch that at one time
> there was a CB&Q "Armstrong" turntable at Carrollton.
>
> I believe service to Carrollton officially ended in 1982 when a whole bunch
> of wonderful, bucolic (and still profitable) branch lines were abandoned in
> North Missouri. Even before official abandonment the Carrollton branch was
> ignored and neglected. Around 1978 I was told by an active BN conductor that
> a carload of sugar destined for Carrollton sat in the Brookfield yard for
> well over a month before delivery was made.
>
> Regarding "LaClede", in all probability that is the original correct
> spelling. Here in Brookfield , there is a street designated "Laclede Avenue"
> which becomes a gravel road that goes to Laclede. The most westerly street
> sign spells it "LaClede". However, all other signs designating the small
> community are spelled "Laclede".
>
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