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Re: [CBQ] Hannibal Trains Orders

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Hannibal Trains Orders
From: Bill Hirt <whirt@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:58:11 -0500
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Glen,

That is interesting because there is another line up from June 30 for the same section of track:

Trains expected between North River and Brookfield between 605 am and 1201 pm
No 55 out of Macon 603 am
No 71 Leave Hannibal 700 am
Pass North River 730 am

This line up is for Hannibal to Elsberry on June 14:

Trains expected between Hannibal and Elsberry between 335 pm and 601 pm
Ex 977 North Lv Louisiana 430 pm
Ex 954 North Pass Old Monroe 445 pm pass Louisiana 530 pm
Sw Eng 308 working at Louisiana and Cosgrove

Since that was ABS territory, that makes much more sense with your experience.

Bill Hirt

On 3/16/2012 1:29 AM, GLEN HAUG wrote:
After reading this lineup, I have a fundamental operating question.  Why was there a lineup at all for any location from Macon east?  This was CTC territory.  Was it CB&Q practice to issue a lineup in CTC territory?  Was it not necessary for a track inspector or any roadway equipment operator to have authority to occupy the track in CTC territory?
 
The purpose of a lineup was to furnish information about the location of trains to workers in ABS or manual block territory, so that they could safely occupy the main track, on their own.  It was their responsibility to be in the clear when the lineup indicated the arrival of a train.  As the lineup changed during the day, they were expected to get updated information from either an operator or the train dispatcher.  Typically lineups were issued only for half of the work day, and it was the track inspector or foreman's responsibility to obtain a new afternoon lineup before the morning lineup expired, typically at 12:01PM.
 
In CTC territory, the dispatcher's permission was required, by 'permit' or 'track and time', to occupy the main track.  A lineup or list of train locations was irrelevant, since permission to occupy would not normally be granted if a train was present or due.
 
On the bridge gangs I worked on between 1966 and 1969, the B&B foreman always had a lineup in ABS or dark territory, and we always worked under a permit in CTC territory (with the foreman frequently on the phone getting time extensions to the original permit if a train fell down and additional time could be granted).
 
Glen Haug


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