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RE: [CBQ] Hannibal Trains Orders

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Hannibal Trains Orders
From: GLEN HAUG <glenehaug@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:29:37 -0700
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After reading this lineup, I have a fundamental operating question.  Why was there a lineup at all for any location from Macon east?  This was CTC territory.  Was it CB&Q practice to issue a lineup in CTC territory?  Was it not necessary for a track inspector or any roadway equipment operator to have authority to occupy the track in CTC territory?
 
The purpose of a lineup was to furnish information about the location of trains to workers in ABS or manual block territory, so that they could safely occupy the main track, on their own.  It was their responsibility to be in the clear when the lineup indicated the arrival of a train.  As the lineup changed during the day, they were expected to get updated information from either an operator or the train dispatcher.  Typically lineups were issued only for half of the work day, and it was the track inspector or foreman's responsibility to obtain a new afternoon lineup before the morning lineup expired, typically at 12:01PM.
 
In CTC territory, the dispatcher's permission was required, by 'permit' or 'track and time', to occupy the main track.  A lineup or list of train locations was irrelevant, since permission to occupy would not normally be granted if a train was present or due.
 
On the bridge gangs I worked on between 1966 and 1969, the B&B foreman always had a lineup in ABS or dark territory, and we always worked under a permit in CTC territory (with the foreman frequently on the phone getting time extensions to the original permit if a train fell down and additional time could be granted).
 
Glen Haug
 

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From: whirt@sbcglobal.net
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:39:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Hannibal Trains Orders

 
Steve,

Here was the line up:

Trains expected between North River and Brookfield between 620 am and 1201 pm June 22 1967....




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