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RE: [CBQ] Re: FW&D 101 passenger caboose [2 Attachments]

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: FW&D 101 passenger caboose [2 Attachments]
From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:28:27 -0700
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OK, to help clarify -- or maybe further confuse -- matters regarding Fort Worth & Denver caboose 101.  There were indeed two FW&D cabooses numberd 101, the first being combine 26, apparently converted into a caboose in 1948 (at least that is when the cupola was added) but not renumbered 101 until 1951.  It was retired by the early 1960s, but even the railroad was confused and it is listed in company records as retired in 1970, which is actually when the second 101 was retired.  That car, one of the many FW&D outside-braced or single-sheathed cabooses, was renumbered from an unknown car in the early 1960s and retired in 1970.  It is the car now privately owned and sitting along US-287 northwest of Wichita Falls.  Attached is an in-service photo of it the year before it was retired, and there is a video on YouTube ("Fort Worth and Denver Freight Train circa 1963") that appears to show it on the rear of a Dallas-bound Joint Texas Division freight.  And just to complete the picture, also attached is the Pullman builder's photo of FW&D baggage car 101.
 
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To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: chambers_ed@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:06:09 +0000
Subject: [CBQ] Re: FW&D 101 passenger caboose

 
The reason I asked wheather the car number 101 on the passenger caboose was a caboose number or a passenger car number is because I also have a photo of the FW&D 101 which is an outside braced caboose ,maybe a renumbered car ? but I do not have a date when it was shot .I would not think that FW&D would have had both cars numbered 101 at the same time and 1970 sounds to me a very late date for the passenger 101 to have been scrapped plus the photo of the 101 passenger cab is dated 1963 so its carbody had to have sold off way before the 1970 retirement date which I suspect is for the outside braced caboose instead . I had made several trips to the Texas panhandle area where the passenger cab 101 was used in the 50's and 60's and never saw it in service or stored either . Anybody know for sure Ed Chambers

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <chambers_ed@...> wrote:
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> I have had a photo of a unidentified passenger caboose body for about 40 some odd years now and have recently discovered its identity as FW&D 101 which I understand it was used on the line that ended at Pampa Tx Now something new to wonder about ,was the FW&D 101 a passenger car number or a caboose number . The photo of the old car body is identified as photographed south of Hollis Ok in 1963 . I never bothered to go and check the car body out and in the photo the carbody was in poor condition then , and now who knows if it still exists? Ed Chambers
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